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« Reply #1325 on: October 31, 2017, 01:11:39 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
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« Reply #1326 on: October 31, 2017, 01:15:33 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2017, 01:17:59 PM by Virginia »

1) Racist dog whistles: check
2) Attacking reporters: check
3) Preposterous ads (pedophilia accusations): check


>Moderate in today's Republican party

I'm sure I missed some.

Gillespie is a moderate in the sense that if he didn't feel the need (and wasn't so willing..) to bend and twist his agenda/campaigning style to win an election, he would probably campaign and govern like a moderate.

But that is not the case. Gillespie is the ultimate partisan hack. He was literally paid to be a partisan hack by holding the job of RNC chairman. Being a spineless hack that will do or say anything to cling to power and raise money is pretty much the job description of a party chair. It is because of this that Ed's gutter campaign and shameless flip-flopping doesn't surprise me one bit, even if I think he would govern a different way under the right circumstances.
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« Reply #1327 on: October 31, 2017, 01:25:53 PM »

There are so few Latino voters in VA I am not sure why this group is even getting involved. Maybe a positive mailer would've been more effective than an ad that only generates negative press for Northam.

This ad is geared to "northeastern" NoVa suburbanites that don't like the "racist southern rednecks" that live in the "other" parts of the state and playing up to the fears of the white nationalists from Charlottesville. It's not pretty, but it's a good response to the dirt that Gillespie has run.

You know what, I am so sick of this IDENTITY POLITICS BS from the Democrats that it almost makes me want to vote for Ed. They need to get off their holier than thou high horse esp come next year and more so in 2020. I am originally from NJ but raised in central VA and moved to NoVA due to a job opportunity and I can tell you not everyone south of PW is some "dumb redneck, herp derp, uhuh!" It is actually quite moderate but some conservative areas but a beautiful part of the state but is suffering economically. But let's ignore that Dems and just keep calling them hicks! Sure, that's a great way to win more votes...
Right! How dare people of color in Virginia be horrified by racist acts after neo-Nazis and Ku Klux Klan marched their streets and killed an innocent anti-racist protester. The horror!
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« Reply #1328 on: October 31, 2017, 02:01:36 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.
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« Reply #1329 on: October 31, 2017, 02:05:27 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
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« Reply #1330 on: October 31, 2017, 02:08:56 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.
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« Reply #1331 on: October 31, 2017, 02:11:06 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
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« Reply #1332 on: October 31, 2017, 02:11:29 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


You, my friend, are a perfectly legitimate argument against weed in Washington.
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« Reply #1333 on: October 31, 2017, 02:15:50 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


Is Northam likely to win by 17?  No, that's one of the extremes of the polling range.  But just because that one outcome is unlikely, it doesn't mean that all the polls are wrong.  The vast majority of them have had Northam ahead; the RCP average has him at +3.3, which I think is pretty close (I put 51-47 in the prediction thread).

If you really think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning, perhaps you should buy some shares on that outcome (it's currently at 0.28 on Predictit).
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« Reply #1334 on: October 31, 2017, 02:30:31 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


Is Northam likely to win by 17?  No, that's one of the extremes of the polling range.  But just because that one outcome is unlikely, it doesn't mean that all the polls are wrong.  The vast majority of them have had Northam ahead; the RCP average has him at +3.3, which I think is pretty close (I put 51-47 in the prediction thread).

If you really think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning, perhaps you should buy some shares on that outcome (it's currently at 0.28 on Predictit).
I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.
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« Reply #1335 on: October 31, 2017, 02:34:35 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


Is Northam likely to win by 17?  No, that's one of the extremes of the polling range.  But just because that one outcome is unlikely, it doesn't mean that all the polls are wrong.  The vast majority of them have had Northam ahead; the RCP average has him at +3.3, which I think is pretty close (I put 51-47 in the prediction thread).

If you really think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning, perhaps you should buy some shares on that outcome (it's currently at 0.28 on Predictit).
I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.
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« Reply #1336 on: October 31, 2017, 02:36:59 PM »

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« Reply #1337 on: October 31, 2017, 02:42:53 PM »

New WaPo poll

Northam (D) 49
Gillespie (R) 44
Hyra (L) 4
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« Reply #1338 on: October 31, 2017, 02:55:59 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


Is Northam likely to win by 17?  No, that's one of the extremes of the polling range.  But just because that one outcome is unlikely, it doesn't mean that all the polls are wrong.  The vast majority of them have had Northam ahead; the RCP average has him at +3.3, which I think is pretty close (I put 51-47 in the prediction thread).

If you really think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning, perhaps you should buy some shares on that outcome (it's currently at 0.28 on Predictit).
I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.
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« Reply #1339 on: October 31, 2017, 02:58:11 PM »

Good news for Northam: Today's wash. post poll pushes Monmouth out of the 5 poll average. The last five polls, skipping Hampton and Quinnipiac, are Northam +5,  Northam +6, Gillespie +2, Northam +7,  and Northam +7, which averages out to a fairly comfortable Northam +4.6.
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« Reply #1340 on: October 31, 2017, 03:51:02 PM »

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« Reply #1341 on: October 31, 2017, 04:04:04 PM »

Northam will have the TV advantage in the last week:

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« Reply #1342 on: October 31, 2017, 04:08:55 PM »

Northam will have the TV advantage in the last week:



The most interesting market to me is Roanoke, where the campaigns themselves are roughly even in spending, but outside spending tips it in Gillespie's favor. Who's doing it?
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« Reply #1343 on: October 31, 2017, 04:42:32 PM »

I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.

Did you know that Chris Gregoire actually won the 2004 election by 6% but Rossi actually hired Idahoans to vote illegally in Spokane. This is as true as any story Mr Greedo spins.
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« Reply #1344 on: October 31, 2017, 04:52:38 PM »

I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.

Did you know that Chris Gregoire actually won the 2004 election by 6% but Rossi actually hired Idahoans to vote illegally in Spokane. This is as true as any story Mr Greedo spins.

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« Reply #1345 on: October 31, 2017, 04:53:22 PM »

No one seems to remember that a white supremacist ran over someone with a car and killed them earlier this year. Gillespie running ads supporting the confederate monuments does nothing to discourage that people who created violence in Charlottesville and he has clearly tried to get those sort of people on his side.

Northam is up anywhere from 6% to 17% (no, I'm not calling Quinnipiac a fake poll like Trump would), so of course Gillespie would be desperate enough to try and get just anyone on his side.
Again your the biggest left-wing hack on this site,NO CANDIDATE IS WINNING BY MORE 3 POINTS.

Sure thing Mr.Unskewer...
You just wait I still think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning.
The polls for this race are fake the last time a democrat or republican won by 17 points was in 2009 and 2008,and that was against an awful republican and Democrats.


Is Northam likely to win by 17?  No, that's one of the extremes of the polling range.  But just because that one outcome is unlikely, it doesn't mean that all the polls are wrong.  The vast majority of them have had Northam ahead; the RCP average has him at +3.3, which I think is pretty close (I put 51-47 in the prediction thread).

If you really think Gillespie has a 60% chance of winning, perhaps you should buy some shares on that outcome (it's currently at 0.28 on Predictit).
I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

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« Reply #1346 on: October 31, 2017, 04:55:18 PM »

I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.

Did you know that Chris Gregoire actually won the 2004 election by 6% but Rossi actually hired Idahoans to vote illegally in Spokane. This is as true as any story Mr Greedo spins.

10/10

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« Reply #1347 on: October 31, 2017, 04:55:39 PM »

1) Racist dog whistles: check
2) Attacking reporters: check
3) Preposterous ads (pedophilia accusations): check


>Moderate in today's Republican party

I'm sure I missed some.

Gillespie is a moderate in the sense that if he didn't feel the need (and wasn't so willing..) to bend and twist his agenda/campaigning style to win an election, he would probably campaign and govern like a moderate.

But that is not the case. Gillespie is the ultimate partisan hack. He was literally paid to be a partisan hack by holding the job of RNC chairman. Being a spineless hack that will do or say anything to cling to power and raise money is pretty much the job description of a party chair. It is because of this that Ed's gutter campaign and shameless flip-flopping doesn't surprise me one bit, even if I think he would govern a different way under the right circumstances.

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« Reply #1348 on: October 31, 2017, 05:06:03 PM »

Obligatory both sides do it?
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« Reply #1349 on: October 31, 2017, 05:14:45 PM »

I would buy some shares but I’m only 15 and I’m broke since I spent all my money on battlefront 2.

Suddenly everything makes sense.

Did you know that Chris Gregoire actually won the 2004 election by 6% but Rossi actually hired Idahoans to vote illegally in Spokane. This is as true as any story Mr Greedo spins.

10/10

Lel

Did you guys know that Dino Rossi won the 8th under a more democrat map everytime he ran?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_gubernatorial_election,_2004
Oh look he won the first count and the second count oh wait the crybaby democrats won’t stop oh what do you know they found random ballots in king county which magically showed up.

Seriously you guys are all political hacks and I’m not someone who thinks every election is rigged. But I do think that Washington gubernatorial 2004 and Minnesota senate 2008 and *maybe* North Carolina gubernatorial race in 2016.
But those first two are 100% rigged just like how Illinois was rigged in 1960.
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