VA-GOV 2017: Utter Panic and Doom (General election: Nov 7th)

[heatcharger]

What exactly has Northam uh, lied about with regard to Enron Ed Gillespie? Like I said in a different thread, false equivalencies are powerful weapon deployed by closeted Republicans such as yourself.

[UncleSam]

Lol at all the left wingers triggered by Gillespie's slandering Northam while openly calling Trump a rapist in other threads. The hypocrisy is real.

Wow, what an insightful take! Unfortunately, though, the fact that Trump is undeniably a sexual predator renders this comparison moot. The effort you put into this whataboutery is commendable, though. Keep fighting the good fight!

Keep drinking the kool aid fam lol

Every political candidate from both major parties have pulled this bullsh**t continuously for centuries. The fact that you keep believing them is why.

I mean there are over a million links to the video where Trump admits to sexual assault. Maybe you missed it?

Because men with inflated and fragile egos have never claimed to be more 'machismo' and sexually successful than they actually are to other dudes with similarly fragile egos and zero respect for women.

Seriously lol if you think that's anywhere close to an 'admission' of anything then idk it just points toward cognitive dissonance with respect to Trump's mental fragility. I'm not saying I know what happened or that he is innocent / not a piece of sh**t regardless, I'm saying it's not a tenable or logically consistent position to assume that Trump wasn't full of sh**t on this point but is all the other times he speaks.

[swf541]

Great new Northam ad targeting rural areas
https://twitter.com/ralphnortham/status/922829230282543104

[UncleSam]

What exactly has Northam uh, lied about with regard to Enron Ed Gillespie? Like I said in a different thread, false equivalencies are powerful weapon deployed by closeted Republicans such as yourself.

Two points in response
1. Northam's assertion that Ed Gillespie is associated with Enron in any meaningful way is every bit as spurious (if less bombastic) as Gillespie's claim that Northam 'supports' child molesters. Northam supports voting rights for felons, which in some cases are child molesters. Gillespie lobbied for Enron fifteen years ago and before Enron did anything illicit. Both are logical jumps and effectively straight bullsh**t, even if technically both are 'true', whatever that means anymore.
2. Why would I feel any need to be a 'closeted Republican' lol, we are on an anonymous political website meant for expressing your thoughts freely. This sort of group think and 'purge' mentality is blitheringly stupid when the reality is that most people hold beliefs consistent with both major parties, depending on the topic.

In any case, this discussion has veered generally away from the topic at hand (the VA Governor's race), so I'll stop responding to baseless assertions vaguely attacking my ideological purity or ability to read.

And yes, these recent ads show strong hints that Gillespie views himself as a heavy underdog presently. Expect him to either go all out on SW Virginia by calling in Trump or all-out on NOVA with transportation focus on the last few weeks. Northam needs to simply put forth a generic positive vision for Virginia with some transportation and health care specifics and he should coast to a small but significant win.

[Virginiá]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/northam-touts-212k-weekend-door-knocks-in-virginia--while-dnc-was-fretting-about-race/2017/10/23/a4627eae-b82a-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

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For Northam, as the article states, this doesn't include the canvassing/GOTV ops of outside groups.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

[Gass3268]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

If Pence couldn't draw a crowd, neither will this.

[heatcharger]

1. Northam's assertion that Ed Gillespie is associated with Enron in any meaningful way is every bit as spurious (if less bombastic) as Gillespie's claim that Northam 'supports' child molesters. Northam supports voting rights for felons, which in some cases are child molesters. Gillespie lobbied for Enron fifteen years ago and before Enron did anything illicit. Both are logical jumps and effectively straight bullsh**t, even if technically both are 'true', whatever that means anymore.

Yeah no, the facts don't back this one up. Enron was engaging in various frauds that centered around cooking their books before Quinn Gillespie & Associates picked them up as a client in 2001. Gillespie's website hilariously talks about this issue, basically saying "but everyone thought Enron was soo good before they got caught!".

[60+ GOP Seats After 2018 GUARANTEED]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

If Pence couldn't draw a crowd, neither will this.

If Trump decided to do a couple rallies in SW Virginia would that help Gillespie?

[Gass3268]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

If Pence couldn't draw a crowd, neither will this.

If Trump decided to do a couple rallies in SW Virginia would that help Gillespie?

I the SW sure, but it would probably have a possible equal negative effect in NoVa.

[Devout Centrist]

Lol at all the left wingers triggered by Gillespie's slandering Northam while openly calling Trump a rapist in other threads. The hypocrisy is real.

Wow, what an insightful take! Unfortunately, though, the fact that Trump is undeniably a sexual predator renders this comparison moot. The effort you put into this whataboutery is commendable, though. Keep fighting the good fight!

Keep drinking the kool aid fam lol

Every political candidate from both major parties have pulled this bullsh**t continuously for centuries. The fact that you keep believing them is why.

I mean there are over a million links to the video where Trump admits to sexual assault. Maybe you missed it?

Because men with inflated and fragile egos have never claimed to be more 'machismo' and sexually successful than they actually are to other dudes with similarly fragile egos and zero respect for women.

Seriously lol if you think that's anywhere close to an 'admission' of anything then idk it just points toward cognitive dissonance with respect to Trump's mental fragility. I'm not saying I know what happened or that he is innocent / not a piece of sh**t regardless, I'm saying it's not a tenable or logically consistent position to assume that Trump wasn't full of sh**t on this point but is all the other times he speaks.

At best, he clearly doesn't respect women. At worst, he's committed some very awful acts.

Like all things Trump, I say we take him at his word.

[Mr. Smith]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

If Pence couldn't draw a crowd, neither will this.

If Trump decided to do a couple rallies in SW Virginia would that help Gillespie?

How did it work out for Strange with that Huntsville rally again?

[Young Conservative]

Flawless, Beautiful Marco Rubio and Susana Martinez will be campaigning for Gillespie!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/marco-rubio-susana-martinez-to-rally-for-ed-gillespie-in-northern-virginia/2017/10/24/1e86c4aa-b8d6-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

If Pence couldn't draw a crowd, neither will this.

If Trump decided to do a couple rallies in SW Virginia would that help Gillespie?

How did it work out for Strange with that Huntsville rally again?

not the same, although its a bad idea for different reasons.

[heatcharger]

National Journal: Progressives fear that Northam could pave the way for a moderate revival within the party

Haha.

[KingSweden]

National Journal: Progressives fear that Northam could pave the way for a moderate revival within the party

Haha.

God forbid we have a big tent for all the people fleeing the dumpster fire of the GOP

[Gass3268]

National Journal: Progressives fear that Northam could pave the way for a moderate revival within the party

Haha.

Even though there was an article the other day how Northam is to the left of many in the party on Education.

[BundouYMB]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

[Dr. Arch]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

[Young Conservative]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

If moderates ran the party, they would let ProLife democrats speak at conventions.

[Mr. Smith]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

This.

And even if this were true, I don't recall the victory of Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker doing this for the GOP.

I don't recall it that way Bob McDonnell either, actually he veered rightwards

[IceSpear]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

This.

And even if this were true, I don't recall the victory of Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker doing this for the GOP.

I don't recall it that way Bob McDonnell either, actually he veered rightwards

Or Pat McCrory.

[Gass3268]

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[Strudelcutie4427]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

If moderates ran the party you wouldn’t be seeing democrats in mass supporting a raging loon like Комрадь Берний Сэндерзь

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

"Revival"? Moderates run the party.

If moderates ran the party you wouldn’t be seeing democrats in mass supporting a raging loon like Комрадь Берний Сэндерзь

Moderates running the party has nothing to do with the base supporting Sanders.

[Yank2133]

National Journal: Progressives fear that Northam could pave the way for a moderate revival within the party

Haha.

Is this peak Josh Kraushaar?

And even if this were true, I don't recall the victory of Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker doing this for the GOP.

National Journal, 2019: Trump could face serious primary opposition from the Phil Scott-wing of the GOP.

Not even the worst take he had this week. The other day he said it was up to dems to moderate to bring in nevertrumpers.

I mean what an arrogant statement. Your party got taking over by crazy people, so it is up to Dems to give into your demands.

Like GTFO.