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Question: Assuming Bernie doesn't run again, who could feasibly position themselves as a progressive champion?
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Elizabeth Warren
 
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Tulsi Gabbard
 
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Sherrod Brown
 
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Kamala Harris
 
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Keith Ellison
 
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« on: December 27, 2016, 02:29:14 AM »
« edited: December 27, 2016, 02:31:32 AM by GoTfan »

Pretty simple. A previous poll I did seemed to have a consensus that the Democratic Left would be in a much stornger position come 2020. But who could lead the lefties and rally them around their candidacy?

This is assuming Bernie doesn't run again, of course, because he'd be the frontrunner almost by default.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2016, 07:25:41 AM »

Whoever Bernie endorses during the 2020 primaries. Probably Warren if she decides to run.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 08:27:04 AM »

Hopefully Brown, but probably Warren.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 11:33:20 AM »

Elizabeth Warren could become both the savior of the Democrats and their downfall too.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 01:08:52 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2016, 01:12:11 PM by DeadPrez »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 01:29:45 PM »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden

While Gabbard would be the best choice, remember that she doesn't have a blind hatred for all things Russian.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 01:51:29 PM »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden

While Gabbard would be the best choice, remember that she doesn't have a blind hatred for all things Russian.
Why would I despise her for that?
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 01:59:45 PM »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden

While Gabbard would be the best choice, remember that she doesn't have a blind hatred for all things Russian.
Why would I despise her for that?

Because Democrats are just blindly blaming Russia, like they've done all year, for Hillary's defeat. Personally, I think it's just red-baiting. Hillary is responsible for Hillary's  defeat. Namely because she repeatedly gave Bernie's wing the middle finger and ran a campaign relying on PC outrage.

And I don't think that the anti-free trade Gabbard would nominate a pro-free trade candidate like Wyden for VP, not when Oregon's basially a lock for the Democrats. She'd be better off picking someone like Sherrod Brown or even Russ Feingold.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 02:11:33 PM »


NOPE, maybe, NOPE.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 02:16:26 PM »

Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 02:41:54 PM »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden

While Gabbard would be the best choice, remember that she doesn't have a blind hatred for all things Russian.
Why would I despise her for that?

But the SJWs, many of whom vote Democrat, will.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 02:42:30 PM »

Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."

Haven't you heard? We're just red baiting.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 02:44:01 PM »

Warren has ties to Wall-street and will be eaten up as a socialist.


Please Gabbard.

Dream ticket: Gabbard/Wyden

While Gabbard would be the best choice, remember that she doesn't have a blind hatred for all things Russian.
Why would I despise her for that?

But the SJWs, many of whom vote Democrat, will.

If you honestly believe our problem with her is simply an insufficient dislike of Russia, then you're either a fool or playing one.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 03:01:51 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2016, 03:04:43 PM by Confused Democrat »


Oh, I thought the question said who they are going to nominate in 2020. Sorry. If we're talking about a "progressive champion", probably Harris or still Sanders, even though he won't win the nomination. I don't see Warren going anywhere.

Well I still highly doubt that Sanders will run. He's more likely to play the role of king maker, not king.

The real question is who he decides to throw his support behind come 2020. I could definitely see him passing the torch to Harris if she decides to work with him on progressive causes in the Senate. However, I'm not entirely sure she'll do this. Democrats are already beginning to turn away from Bernie Sanders and towards Obama to lead the party. Which is understandable to a degree, Bernie is still a registered Independent, but that might be the wrong move.

Obama has already stated that he wants to groom a new bench of Democratic leaders, and Harris seems like a likely recipient of that treatment. Not that that's a bad thing, but I'm starting to wonder if Obama has lost his edge.

Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."

Red avatars are constantly pushing this narrative on this forum, and I can't understand why. She's a bit libertarian when it comes to foreign policy; that's it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 03:05:04 PM »
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Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."

Red avatars are constantly pushing this narrative on this forum, and I can't understand why. She's a bit libertarian when it comes to foreign policy; that's it.
Libertarian is an awfully strange descriptor for someone who calls it "disgusting" that we aren't  bombing enough Muslims.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 03:08:25 PM »

Who is Harris?
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 03:15:16 PM »


Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."

Red avatars are constantly pushing this narrative on this forum, and I can't understand why. She's a bit libertarian when it comes to foreign policy; that's it.
Libertarian is an awfully strange descriptor for someone who calls it "disgusting" that we are bombing enough Muslims.

Sorry, you're right. Libertarian was the wrong word to use. Liberal is probably more accurate.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2016, 03:16:08 PM »

Gabbard represents the far-right, not any sort of "left."

You're at risk of Russian goons hacking your SSN and credit card details now. RIP.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2016, 03:47:25 PM »

Brown is the most likely out of these. Warren and Ellison probably won't run, Gabbard is awful, and I feel like some people on the left will decide that Harris is not a real progressive because reasons.
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2016, 04:57:30 PM »

Harris has no major legislative experience. She got nothing done. She is a 1 time Senator. On what basis will she run? Being AG of CA? She is soft on TPP!

Another CA elite with identity politics? Good luck trying that in WI.

I think whoever Bernie endorses will have a huge advantage since Bernie will probably campaign for that candidate as well. If Bernie endorses Warren, then she could unite most sections..
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2016, 05:24:39 PM »

Harris has no major legislative experience. She got nothing done. She is a 1 time Senator. On what basis will she run? Being AG of CA? She is soft on TPP!

Another CA elite with identity politics? Good luck trying that in WI.

I think whoever Bernie endorses will have a huge advantage since Bernie will probably campaign for that candidate as well. If Bernie endorses Warren, then she could unite most sections..

How is she soft on TPP if she opposes it?
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2016, 06:31:37 PM »

Harris has no major legislative experience. She got nothing done. She is a 1 time Senator. On what basis will she run? Being AG of CA? She is soft on TPP!

Another CA elite with identity politics? Good luck trying that in WI.

I think whoever Bernie endorses will have a huge advantage since Bernie will probably campaign for that candidate as well. If Bernie endorses Warren, then she could unite most sections..

Even soft opposition to the TPP wins points with the Bernie crowd.
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2016, 07:19:47 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2016, 05:06:36 AM »

Harris has no major legislative experience. She got nothing done. She is a 1 time Senator. On what basis will she run? Being AG of CA? She is soft on TPP!

Another CA elite with identity politics? Good luck trying that in WI.

She hasn't even been sworn in yet...
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2016, 05:03:20 PM »

Warren definitely. I don't think Brown will run, so Harris and Ellison would be close seconds.
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