2016 electoral college voting **live commentary thread**

[The Other Castro]

Texas VP vote: 37 Mike Pence, 1 Carly Fiorina

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We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

Wikipedia seems to indicate 10 in 1892?

I just see 1 for 1892 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Should've went with the Second Amendment Solution after all.

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Texas VP vote: 37 Mike Pence, 1 Carly Fiorina

lol

[Bigby]

Some GOP elector is a looney GOPe.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Six faithless electors so far. The first time we've got more than one since 1960, I believe (Kennedy won Alabama, but six of them voted Byrd. Mississippi was actually carried by an unpledged slot).

All the Byrd votes were from unpledged electors - AL wasn't WTA. Same reason 1860 had no faithless electors - NJ wasn't WTA.

Hm, didn't know that. Still it's funny since Kennedy won the state's PV with 56.39% (Dave doesn't list any unpledged voters in Alabama for 1960.)

Where they being allocated via CDs? For since when?

The actual candidates for elector were listed on the GE ballot instead of the candidates, and people could vote however they wanted. So a split delegation served in the EC.

[RI]

Texas VP vote: 37 Mike Pence, 1 Carly Fiorina

I really hope there was a Trump/Fiorina voter lol

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Texas VP vote: 37 Mike Pence, 1 Carly Fiorina

Didn't think Ted Cruz could be an elector!

[justfollowingtheelections]

So a total of 5 women received a vote for Vice-President.  Impressive.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

Wikipedia seems to indicate 10 in 1892?

I just see 1 for 1892 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

See the main article for the 1892 election.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Some GOP elector is a looney GOPe.

You literally supported a fascist sex predator for President.

[Bigby]

So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

[The Other Castro]

Pre-Hawaii Total:

Trump - 304
Clinton - 224
Powell - 3
Kasich - 1
Paul - 1
Faith Spotted Eagle - 1

Pence - 305
Kaine - 224
Warren - 1
Cantwell - 1
LaDuke - 1
Collins - 1
Fiorina - 1

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

We're going to have the most faithless electors (faithless is more common for VP) in a couple of centuries, but before anyone gets too excited, there were 2 in 1832 and 6 in 1808. That's it for elections with multiple faithless electors.

There were actually 23 in 1836, but all for VP. The VP election actually got thrown to the Senate for the only time when New York Virginia delegation refused to vote for Van Buren's running mate.

I meant for President. VP is more common. We've now tied 1808 for the most Presidential faithless electors with 6.

Wikipedia seems to indicate 10 in 1892?

I just see 1 for 1892 here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

See the main article for the 1892 election.

You must be talking about the split states. Well, ME-02 wasn't faithless this election, and it used to be more common for states to not be winner take all. And yes, ND was hilarious for splitting 1-1-1. But none of those were faithless.

[Mike88]

So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

Interesting. Is this the first time the VP actually wins more EV than the President? Or has it occurred in the past?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

Interesting. Is this the first time the VP actually wins more EV than the President? Or has it occurred in the past?

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[The Other Castro]

So two Texas Electors voted Kasich and Paul, but one stayed with Pence while the other went with Fiorina. I'll guess it's the Paul guy that went with Fiorina, while Suprun probably voted Kasich/Pence.

[Bigby]

So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

Interesting. Is this the first time the VP actually wins more EV than the President? Or has it occurred in the past?

1824

Calhoun was VP for both Jackson and Quincy Adams, so the Senate did not need to elect him, as he won the majority of the electors needed to become VP.

[Mike88]

So, Pence gets 305 for VP while Trump gets 304 for President. Is Pence the true winner here?

Interesting. Is this the first time the VP actually wins more EV than the President? Or has it occurred in the past?

1824

Yikes! That was one messy election! Thanks

[justfollowingtheelections]

Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
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We need to change the electoral college.

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Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
 Follow
 Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
We need to change the electoral college.

I bet he's salty that he didn't get any

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Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
 Follow
 Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
We need to change the electoral college.

I bet he's salty that he didn't get any

I bet he would have if Trump had hit 270 before Washington voted (and the electors had heard). They were trying to get the House to choose Powell.

[Mike88]

Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
 Follow
 Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
We need to change the electoral college.

How about the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact? Where does that stand?

[cicel]

Crazy how if Trump won the popular vote and if the NPVIC was in law, all of those CA electors would have had to vote Republican.

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Bernie weighs in:

Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
Trump received 2.5 million fewer votes than Clinton, yet he'll soon be president. Clearly, in a democratic society, this shouldn't happen.
 Follow
 Bernie Sanders ✔ @SenSanders
We need to change the electoral college.

How about the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact? Where does that stand?

It's at 165/270 electoral votes, but still hasn't passed in a single Trump state.