Turkey referendum, 2017 (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 29, 2024, 04:32:15 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  International Elections (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  Turkey referendum, 2017 (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Turkey referendum, 2017  (Read 20089 times)
America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,441
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« on: April 16, 2017, 02:52:16 AM »

Bold prediction: Yes wins by more than 60%. Unfortunately.
Logged
America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,441
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »

To be honest, all this ordeal proves to me is that Western Europe is, culturally and socially, just a much worse fit than countries like the US or Canada for the assimilation of immigrants.
Logged
America Needs R'hllor
Parrotguy
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,441
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -4.13, S: -3.48

« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 01:20:21 PM »


Are you saying our societies are structurally designed to not be able to integrate/assimilate immigrants, compared to the US or Canada? Rather than the evident historical and geographical factors at work here?
Both. Of course, the comparably small size of European countries is part of the equation, but geographical and historical factors are part of what shapes a society anyway. Add to that the fact that European countries are defined more ethnically compared to former colonies, and yes, your societies are just not very good for integration of immigrants. Not saying they were 'designed' that way- it just happened because of the aforementioned historical and  geographical factors.
And by the way, I wasn't speaking about the Turks in particular, though immigrants from countries which are culturally or religiously very different seem to have an even harder time assimilating, unfortunately.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.023 seconds with 12 queries.