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« Reply #75 on: April 16, 2017, 09:35:55 AM »

18% of the vote counted.  Yes/No at 64/36

In Nov 2015 with 21% of the vote in AKP at 57.5%.  This implies a Yes victory of around 52/48
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« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2017, 09:39:56 AM »

Wait, it's apparently 17:40 right now in Turkey (at least in Ankara). Why are they counting votes so early? Do polls really close at like 17:00 there?
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« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2017, 09:40:39 AM »

18% of the vote counted.  Yes/No at 64/36

In Nov 2015 with 21% of the vote in AKP at 57.5%.  This implies a Yes victory of around 52/48

But the AKP got 49.5% in the end.

Wouldn't that mean around 56-44 for YES in the end ?
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« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2017, 09:40:42 AM »

Wait, it's apparently 17:40 right now in Turkey (at least in Ankara). Why are they counting votes so early? Do polls really close at like 17:00 there?

I think Eastern Turkey had polls close at 4pm Ankara time.
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« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2017, 09:41:13 AM »

Wait, it's apparently 17:40 right now in Turkey (at least in Ankara). Why are they counting votes so early? Do polls really close at like 17:00 there?

Yes, polls closed at 5pm local time (like in Austria).
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« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2017, 09:41:31 AM »

18% of the vote counted.  Yes/No at 64/36

In Nov 2015 with 21% of the vote in AKP at 57.5%.  This implies a Yes victory of around 52/48

But the AKP got 49.5% in the end.

Wouldn't that end at around 56-44 for YES in the end ?

Yes, did math wrong.
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« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2017, 09:43:44 AM »

https://twitter.com/atarabish

https://twitter.com/TReport_?lang=en

Are the "leakers"  The first guy is a Sabah reporter.  No idea who the second guy is and he could be making the numbers up but they do seem to match the Sabah reporter who I think not be dumb enough to make up numbers.
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« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2017, 09:45:23 AM »



20% of the vote in 64/36 Yes ahead
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« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2017, 09:46:07 AM »

Yeni Safak newspaper (close ties to Erdogan) has the actual live vote count:

http://www.yenisafak.com/secim-referandum-2017/secim-sonuclari

23% in:

63.6% YES
36.4% Sry, but no

83.2% turnout
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« Reply #84 on: April 16, 2017, 09:46:58 AM »

Another Sabah reporter

https://twitter.com/MhmtSlmz

Has it at 63.75% Yes with 22.72% of the vote counted.

The fact that Sabah is coming out with these numbers early means the ruling regime is pretty sure it has won.
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« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2017, 09:47:39 AM »

So this business of "no results until 9pm" is just BS.
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« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2017, 09:48:24 AM »

YES is racking up some huge margins (70-80%) in the heartland.

Like Trump did in the rural counties ...

No ahead in the Kurdish areas and the tourism-dependent coastal areas.
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« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2017, 09:49:30 AM »

Using 2015 Nov results as calibration we are still headed toward at 56/44 win.
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« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2017, 09:51:37 AM »

Also notice that the Eastern provinces are mostly counted already.

Still, even from what is in from the Western provinces (closed an hour later), there's no fu**ing chance that the NO-side pulls this out.
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« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2017, 09:52:35 AM »

Its over.  Unless Istanbul which is almost not counted has a massive No vote then Yes will win easily.
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« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2017, 09:54:49 AM »

Its over.  Unless Istanbul which is almost not counted has a massive No vote then Yes will win easily.

Istanbul won't have a massive No vote.

It will vote Yes with 55-45.
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« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2017, 10:03:18 AM »

Based on the map and count so far, I expect a final result of around 55% YES.

Maybe 56% if the vote abroad is exceptionally pro-Erdogan.
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« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2017, 10:03:18 AM »

With 32.4% in it is Yes with 61.3.  Using 2015 as calibration Yes is headed toward a 55.7 victory.
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« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2017, 10:04:16 AM »

38% counted, YES drops below 60%.
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« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2017, 10:05:57 AM »

Antalya and Izmir are delivering solidly for NO so far and not a lot counted there.

Istanbul (15 million people) moving closer to 50-50.

I guess YES could drop below 55% in the end ...
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« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2017, 10:07:07 AM »


2015 Nov calibration based on this implies 55/45 Yes win.  New votes are more favorable to No relative to 2015 Nov.
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« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2017, 10:07:15 AM »

RIP Turkey, you had a good run.
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« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2017, 10:10:31 AM »

The Black Sea coast and the heartland (60-75% YES) are probably winning it for Erdogan.

Still, a lot of NO-votes coming in from the Med. Coast and Istanbul/Ankara are getting closer too.
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« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2017, 10:12:17 AM »

Expat vote starting to trickle in:

Germany: 62% Yes
Austria: 73% Yes
Netherlands: 74% Yes
Belgium: 80% Yes

Finland: 70% No
Australia: 81% No
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« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2017, 10:16:27 AM »

51.5% of the vote in Yes at 57.5.  Using Nov 2015 as calibration Yes now projected to win with 53.9.  No is gaining momentum relative to Nov 2015 results.
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