MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25
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« Reply #625 on: April 28, 2017, 11:59:48 AM »

"We don't wanna give him money because it'll nationalize the race" is such a cop out.

WHICH IS SOMETHING REPUBLICANS DO ANYWAYS. They've already cut attack ads that portray Quist as a pawn of Pelosi.

It's because it doesn't fit their narrative. They want to win in GA-6 with Ossoff because it'll show that their "trade a blue collar vote for a white suburban vote" strategy was actually right all along, and having a populist win wouldn't contribute anything to that.

That wouod be a dumb strategy if their goal is to win.
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« Reply #626 on: April 28, 2017, 01:04:45 PM »

"We don't wanna give him money because it'll nationalize the race" is such a cop out.

WHICH IS SOMETHING REPUBLICANS DO ANYWAYS. They've already cut attack ads that portray Quist as a pawn of Pelosi.

It's because it doesn't fit their narrative. They want to win in GA-6 with Ossoff because it'll show that their "trade a blue collar vote for a white suburban vote" strategy was actually right all along, and having a populist win wouldn't contribute anything to that.

That wouod be a dumb strategy if their goal is to win.

The Bernie people can't get over feeling like it's all about them. Newsflash: Not everything is about you!
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« Reply #627 on: April 28, 2017, 03:18:21 PM »

Remember folks, DCCC is just one piece of national democratic campaign action. And everyone else is staying out.

Also worth noting that for Democratic operatives talking to Politico, the Democratic Party is a coalition of the educated, affluent, and moderate.
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« Reply #628 on: April 28, 2017, 03:23:18 PM »

Remember folks, DCCC is just one piece of national democratic campaign action. And everyone else is staying out.

Also worth noting that for Democratic operatives talking to Politico, the Democratic Party is a coalition of the educated, affluent, and moderate.
D-Trip is the cog in the machine that tackles Congressional campaigns. They can offer non-financial assistance, as they did in Georgia, but you don't campaign in Montana statewide like you do in the Atlanta metro. Other orgs failure to get in is unfortunate but ... they operate very differently.
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« Reply #629 on: April 28, 2017, 03:27:37 PM »

Remember folks, DCCC is just one piece of national democratic campaign action. And everyone else is staying out.

Also worth noting that for Democratic operatives talking to Politico, the Democratic Party is a coalition of the educated, affluent, and moderate.
D-Trip is the cog in the machine that tackles Congressional campaigns. They can offer non-financial assistance, as they did in Georgia, but you don't campaign in Montana statewide like you do in the Atlanta metro. Other orgs failure to get in is unfortunate but ... they operate very differently.

I mean, they have televisions out there. And groups that are airing ads in the GA 6 associated with the national liberal establishment* are not doing so in the MT AL. And when you ask them, they cite Trump's support, and the comparatively uneducated and ""WCW"" nature of Montana's population.



*the fuzzy network of orgs, think tanks, blogs etc with varying degrees of association with the Democratic party
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« Reply #630 on: April 28, 2017, 03:44:37 PM »

Remember folks, DCCC is just one piece of national democratic campaign action. And everyone else is staying out.

Also worth noting that for Democratic operatives talking to Politico, the Democratic Party is a coalition of the educated, affluent, and moderate.
D-Trip is the cog in the machine that tackles Congressional campaigns. They can offer non-financial assistance, as they did in Georgia, but you don't campaign in Montana statewide like you do in the Atlanta metro. Other orgs failure to get in is unfortunate but ... they operate very differently.

I mean, they have televisions out there. And groups that are airing ads in the GA 6 associated with the national liberal establishment* are not doing so in the MT AL. And when you ask them, they cite Trump's support, and the comparatively uneducated and ""WCW"" nature of Montana's population.



*the fuzzy network of orgs, think tanks, blogs etc with varying degrees of association with the Democratic party

GA-6 is a far better pickup opportunity though.
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« Reply #631 on: April 28, 2017, 05:40:12 PM »

Remember folks, DCCC is just one piece of national democratic campaign action. And everyone else is staying out.

Also worth noting that for Democratic operatives talking to Politico, the Democratic Party is a coalition of the educated, affluent, and moderate.
D-Trip is the cog in the machine that tackles Congressional campaigns. They can offer non-financial assistance, as they did in Georgia, but you don't campaign in Montana statewide like you do in the Atlanta metro. Other orgs failure to get in is unfortunate but ... they operate very differently.

I mean, they have televisions out there. And groups that are airing ads in the GA 6 associated with the national liberal establishment* are not doing so in the MT AL. And when you ask them, they cite Trump's support, and the comparatively uneducated and ""WCW"" nature of Montana's population.



*the fuzzy network of orgs, think tanks, blogs etc with varying degrees of association with the Democratic party

GA-6 is a far better pickup opportunity though.

I mean not in my estimation but I guess we'll see after June Tongue
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« Reply #632 on: April 29, 2017, 06:33:23 PM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.
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« Reply #633 on: April 30, 2017, 11:29:38 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2017, 12:03:02 PM by MT Treasurer »

And here is the first and last "official" debate between the three candidates

I actually watched the entire thing for some reason. Not that these debates really matter, but I thought it was a very underwhelming performance by Quist (he dodged a lot questions and kept repeating his usual "But Russia" and "But millionayhs" talking points, etc.). Remember when he sounded like a dove?

Say what you want about Gianforte, but he sounded pretty authentic for the most past, especially at the end.
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« Reply #634 on: April 30, 2017, 02:12:49 PM »

And here is the first and last "official" debate between the three candidates

I actually watched the entire thing for some reason. Not that these debates really matter, but I thought it was a very underwhelming performance by Quist (he dodged a lot questions and kept repeating his usual "But Russia" and "But millionayhs" talking points, etc.). Remember when he sounded like a dove?

Say what you want about Gianforte, but he sounded pretty authentic for the most past, especially at the end.

Quist certainly isn't living up to the hype he has been getting here.  I no longer think this will be close.  Ambitious MT Dems should probably hold out for the chance of an MT-02 to run in come 2022.  The redistricting commission constitutional amendment would basically ensure an all western MT seat would be created.
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« Reply #635 on: April 30, 2017, 03:44:57 PM »

And here is the first and last "official" debate between the three candidates

I actually watched the entire thing for some reason. Not that these debates really matter, but I thought it was a very underwhelming performance by Quist (he dodged a lot questions and kept repeating his usual "But Russia" and "But millionayhs" talking points, etc.). Remember when he sounded like a dove?

Say what you want about Gianforte, but he sounded pretty authentic for the most past, especially at the end.

Quist certainly isn't living up to the hype he has been getting here.  I no longer think this will be close.  Ambitious MT Dems should probably hold out for the chance of an MT-02 to run in come 2022.  The redistricting commission constitutional amendment would basically ensure an all western MT seat would be created.

I still think Quist narrowly wins by single digits if Democrats get more involved in May. But the way their "analysts" seem to be writing this race off is disconcerting.
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« Reply #636 on: April 30, 2017, 04:17:50 PM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.
So damn the party if they do something and damn if they don't.  Can't do anything which you won't bitch about. 
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« Reply #637 on: May 01, 2017, 11:22:13 AM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.

Honestly it's good to see that he's at least willing to show up for everyone. I get the sense that he's at least trying.
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« Reply #638 on: May 01, 2017, 02:19:27 PM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.

Honestly it's good to see that he's at least willing to show up for everyone. I get the sense that he's at least trying.
Right? I mean Jesus tapdancing Christ you shit on the party when they try to do stuff and you shit on them when they don't. At least Perez is making an effort. Good god.
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« Reply #639 on: May 01, 2017, 02:24:42 PM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.

Honestly it's good to see that he's at least willing to show up for everyone. I get the sense that he's at least trying.
Right? I mean Jesus tapdancing Christ you shit on the party when they try to do stuff and you shit on them when they don't. At least Perez is making an effort. Good god.

Not to derail the thread, but I do get the resentment of the party, even when there's a cursory gesture of unity.

For every Perez there's like two Cynthia Dills (#topicalregionalreference)
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« Reply #640 on: May 01, 2017, 04:53:45 PM »

Rob Quist Turned Down A Visit From DNC Chair Tom Perez

Not surprising, but this doesn't sound to me like Perez isn't trying everything to get Quist elected.

It's so great to see Perez get constantly shat on.

Honestly it's good to see that he's at least willing to show up for everyone. I get the sense that he's at least trying.
Right? I mean Jesus tapdancing Christ you shit on the party when they try to do stuff and you shit on them when they don't. At least Perez is making an effort. Good god.

Not to derail the thread, but I do get the resentment of the party, even when there's a cursory gesture of unity.

For every Perez there's like two Cynthia Dills (#topicalregionalreference)
Yes, but I'd argue Cynthia Dill is a nobody while Perez has an active role in the party.
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« Reply #641 on: May 03, 2017, 01:33:56 AM »

Local papers are now reporting Quist under-reported his income.

Stick a fork in him, boys, he's done.
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« Reply #642 on: May 03, 2017, 02:08:39 AM »

Local papers are now reporting Quist under-reported his income.

Stick a fork in him, boys, he's done.

Ugh. That seems hard to recover from.
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« Reply #643 on: May 03, 2017, 03:38:53 AM »

Local papers are now reporting Quist under-reported his income.

Stick a fork in him, boys, he's done.

Ugh. That seems hard to recover from.

Every statewide candidate should honestly just have a life coach/body person to dot their i's and cross their t's.

And influential pols (looking at you Schweitzer, Bullock) should do some vetting before they recruit candidates they think will be *just perfect*.
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« Reply #644 on: May 03, 2017, 04:13:54 AM »

Meanwhile, Amanda Curtis is sitting at home laughing and attempting to resist the urge to make a YouTube video about all of this. Tongue
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« Reply #645 on: May 03, 2017, 05:00:59 AM »

Local papers are now reporting Quist under-reported his income.

Stick a fork in him, boys, he's done.

Ugh. That seems hard to recover from.

Every statewide candidate should honestly just have a life coach/body person to dot their i's and cross their t's.

And influential pols (looking at you Schweitzer, Bullock) should do some vetting before they recruit candidates they think will be *just perfect*.

I'd say that's still on the state party. But... yeah.
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« Reply #646 on: May 03, 2017, 05:46:32 AM »

I've stated to the limited audiences on #southernchat for a while now that I would vote Gianforte here because Quist is a Berniecrat. Now that the race is decided and Atlas can't blame the result on my posts, time to say it on here:

I endorse Gianforte for Congress.
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« Reply #647 on: May 03, 2017, 07:08:23 AM »

I've stated to the limited audiences on #southernchat for a while now that I would vote Gianforte here because Quist is a Berniecrat. Now that the race is decided and Atlas can't blame the result on my posts, time to say it on here:

I endorse Gianforte for Congress.

So, uh, you endorsing the idea that people shouldn't retire because Noah worked until age 600, then?
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« Reply #648 on: May 03, 2017, 07:22:09 AM »

I've stated to the limited audiences on #southernchat for a while now that I would vote Gianforte here because Quist is a Berniecrat. Now that the race is decided and Atlas can't blame the result on my posts, time to say it on here:

I endorse Gianforte for Congress.

So, uh, you endorsing the idea that people shouldn't retire because Noah worked until age 600, then?

No. I just don't endorse Berniecrats. They're nothing but a bunch of socialists. And Gianforte is just your typical republican, he's not going to join the freedom caucus or anything like that.
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« Reply #649 on: May 03, 2017, 10:18:16 AM »

DCCC is sending another $400K to Montana for Quist, bringing total investment to $600K.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_590943b3e4b05c39768423fc
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