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Question: How much of an influence the alt-right will have in the 2020 election?
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2016, 08:10:33 PM »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
But what if the nom is a Cory Booker or Castro who visits Wisconsin and asks "are you better off now than 4 years ago"


It'll be a deadly combo of both.
Can you clarify that because it was like 3 options
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2016, 08:14:04 PM »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
But what if the nom is a Cory Booker or Castro who visits Wisconsin and asks "are you better off now than 4 years ago"


It'll be a deadly combo of both.
Can you clarify that because it was like 3 options

I think Cory Booker and Julian Castro are the Clintonite or a SF style social liberals who will probably speak out to the people in factories in WI and might enfuriate the alt right to a serious political force.
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2016, 08:16:50 PM »

Not much, I don't think many people took too kindly to the Nazi rally that went viral from The Atlantic.
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2016, 08:18:12 PM »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
But what if the nom is a Cory Booker or Castro who visits Wisconsin and asks "are you better off now than 4 years ago"


It'll be a deadly combo of both.
Can you clarify that because it was like 3 options

I think Cory Booker and Julian Castro are the Clintonite or a SF style social liberals who will probably speak out to the people in factories in WI and might enfuriate the alt right to a serious political force.
But if they are right about "are you better off now than 4 years ago" how can the alt-right become a serious force
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2016, 08:22:29 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2016, 08:45:19 PM by Mike67 »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
But what if the nom is a Cory Booker or Castro who visits Wisconsin and asks "are you better off now than 4 years ago"


It'll be a deadly combo of both.
Can you clarify that because it was like 3 options

I think Cory Booker and Julian Castro are the Clintonite or a SF style social liberals who will probably speak out to the people in factories in WI and might enfuriate the alt right to a serious political force.
But if they are right about "are you better off now than 4 years ago" how can the alt-right become a serious force

Conservatives and other Supporters of President Trump will still be getting their news and information from Drudge Report,Breitbart,Newsmax,The Blaze,Newsbusters and Infowars. They've quit listening to the extremely biased MSM who were proud water carriers for Hillary Clinton. That will continue,
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2016, 08:54:05 PM »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
But what if the nom is a Cory Booker or Castro who visits Wisconsin and asks "are you better off now than 4 years ago"


It'll be a deadly combo of both.
Can you clarify that because it was like 3 options

I think Cory Booker and Julian Castro are the Clintonite or a SF style social liberals who will probably speak out to the people in factories in WI and might enfuriate the alt right to a serious political force.
But if they are right about "are you better off now than 4 years ago" how can the alt-right become a serious force


Hint: The races of Cory Booker and Julian Castro.

The alt-right might not agree with "being better off than 4 years ago", because in their minds they would be better off. Them visiting factory towns in WI and saying that might be taken as a slight middle finger to that group. The alt-right has partially grown from that economic discomfort.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2016, 09:27:33 PM »

We don't know for sure how much influence the alt-right will be on President Trump. Bad idea to turn preconceived notions into certainty with an opaque president-elect who considers the truth relative. More arrogant posters may be sure of everything already but we frankly don't know his true agenda.

But one major factor will be the Democratic nominee. If the Democrats nominate a Clintonite or a SF style social liberal who's less able to attract the WWC it may well empower the alt right even if Trump is unpopular. If the Dems nominate an SJW latte liberal against a president Trump with decent enough approval ratings, and the party doubles down on the sunbelt strategy and driving minority turnout and  throws the poor rural populations of the upper midwest to the wolves, the alt right could truly blossom into a serious political force.

On the other hand a race between an economic populist Democrat who actually visits Wisconsin, who visits the factory towns and asks them if they're better off now than four years ago, vs a Donald Trump with poor approval ratings or a President Pence would marginalize the alt right - right back into the shadows of irrelevancy.
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2016, 01:06:01 PM »

All the memes that the alt-right will s***post will surely bring the Democrats to their knees.

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« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2016, 02:41:17 PM »

As much as the Democrats choose to give them.
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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2016, 06:30:16 PM »

Very little, the alt right is not as powerful as people think and unless it grows massively in the next 4 years it will only have an effect if people let it effect the election by giving it more attention than it deserves. I could be very wrong on this but I would say I'm pretty confident.

Well the only prospect they have is attract more single White un/underemployed Rust Belt men to their group. If Trump doesn't deliver and the Rust Belt still suffers, then they could grow.
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2016, 10:52:01 PM »

As much influence as Tumblr folks. So, none at all.
You (and I) wish.
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« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2016, 12:11:36 AM »

The alt-right is probably like 0.1% of the population and by 2020 will be only news. Heck, my parents don't even know what the alt-right is. There is a world beyond the political blogosphere and most of the voters live in it.
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