Which is the bigger divide in American politics?

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I think it's more generational, Baby boomers v.s Millennials.

[Goldwater]

I guess liberal vs. conservative, though that one doesn't really fit, since it's about ideology while the rest are about demographics. I mean, wouldn't an urban millennial minority who (surprising) votes Republican identify as a conservative?

[bagelman]

Divisions between Urban areas v.s rural areas have been a factor in human society since the dawn of the classical era.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

I guess liberal vs. conservative, though that one doesn't really fit, since it's about ideology while the rest are about demographics. I mean, wouldn't an urban millennial minority who (surprising) votes Republican identify as a conservative?

It's clearly liberal vs. conservative, but I would go with race or location before age.  Those have much bigger gaps (the age gap isn't actually that big for all we talk about it).  Also, if you combine two, for example, both Trump and Romney comfortably carried young whites.

[Goldwater]

I guess liberal vs. conservative, though that one doesn't really fit, since it's about ideology while the rest are about demographics. I mean, wouldn't an urban millennial minority who (surprising) votes Republican identify as a conservative?

It's clearly liberal vs. conservative, but I would go with race or location before age.  Those have much bigger gaps (the age gap isn't actually that big for all we talk about it).  Also, if you combine two, for example, both Trump and Romney comfortably carried young whites.

Also, IIRC, younger blacks are actually somewhat less democratic than older black voters. Of course, that fact that younger people are also more likely to vote for third parties probably plays a big role in that.

[Intell]

baby-boomers, aren't even the most conservative age group. Those born later in the generation, are more conservative than those born earlier.

[TDAS04]

Race is a bigger factor than age, and to a lesser extent, bigger than urban vs. rural.  Minorities tend to vote Democratic, whether urban or rural.

[Person Man]

agrarian populists vs urban technocrats

[Blue3]

I was going to say race, although that doesn't account for ideology. But urban/rural encompasses both, that's what I went with.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Sexy vs non-sexy

[RI]

agrarian populists vs urban technocrats

I'm a big fan of technocracy, but it's a tool that's only as good as the assumptions, goals, and values you bring into it. There's no reason that a technocrat's methods can't be employed for the interests of the agrarian populist. As such, the fundamental divide must be at least one step prior to this; the divide must be in the values/assumptions/goals that the urbanites bring to their methods against the values/goals the agrarians hold.

[RaphaelDLG]

Urban vs rural, then race, then (BIG GAP) millennials vs baby boomers.

Source:
http://www.metropolismag.com/Point-of-View/November-2016/In-Three-Maps-The-US-Urban-Rural-Divide/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

Asking liberal vs conservative is basically asking the same thing as "what's the bigger divide in American politics between democrats and republicans:  urban vs rural or democrats vs republicans?"

It's, like, tautological.

[White Trash]

1. Urban vs. Rural (Been the center of conflict in all American politics since the inception of the republic)
2. White vs. Non-white (Still a large issue depending on where you are)
3. Millenial vs. Baby Boomer (Not real)

[Person Man]

agrarian populists vs urban technocrats

I'm a big fan of technocracy, but it's a tool that's only as good as the assumptions, goals, and values you bring into it. There's no reason that a technocrat's methods can't be employed for the interests of the agrarian populist. As such, the fundamental divide must be at least one step prior to this; the divide must be in the values/assumptions/goals that the urbanites bring to their methods against the values/goals the agrarians hold.

Like people are honest about or ever want to talk about those things without going off on straw men and idenitarian tangents.

[Associate Justice PiT]

agrarian populists vs urban technocrats

I'm a big fan of technocracy, but it's a tool that's only as good as the assumptions, goals, and values you bring into it. There's no reason that a technocrat's methods can't be employed for the interests of the agrarian populist. As such, the fundamental divide must be at least one step prior to this; the divide must be in the values/assumptions/goals that the urbanites bring to their methods against the values/goals the agrarians hold.

     I would agree. Technocrats have a fundamentally different vision from agrarians. It's not that common ground is impossible and a lot of the gap is based on mutual ignorance. For that gap to ever be bridged in a meaningful sense would require a seismic shift in attitudes, and these attitudes are born primarily out of the differences between urban and rural life.

[Blue3]

agrarian populists vs urban technocrats

I'm a big fan of technocracy, but it's a tool that's only as good as the assumptions, goals, and values you bring into it. There's no reason that a technocrat's methods can't be employed for the interests of the agrarian populist. As such, the fundamental divide must be at least one step prior to this; the divide must be in the values/assumptions/goals that the urbanites bring to their methods against the values/goals the agrarians hold.

     I would agree. Technocrats have a fundamentally different vision from agrarians. It's not that common ground is impossible and a lot of the gap is based on mutual ignorance. For that gap to ever be bridged in a meaningful sense would require a seismic shift in attitudes, and these attitudes are born primarily out of the differences between urban and rural life.

He's talking about how he views technocrat as more of a method/style/tactic than an ideology, and agrarian more like an ideology (and culture).