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Question: Who is more responsible for the Iraq War
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George W.Bush
 
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Saddam Hussein
 
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« on: July 08, 2005, 04:01:59 AM »

Last months poll by Rasmussen claims that 49% of Americans believe that George Bush is responsible for the Iraq War. While 44% (90%+ Bush loving Republicans) blame Saddam Hussein.

The bottom line is that the War in Iraq was Illegal. Bush allowed Bin Laden to escape and as he siad on March 16th 2002..

'i dont care where Bin Laden is'

Bush got his war and helped drive up oil price for all his pals that sponser the Republican campaign.

The London Attack yesterday (i was on Fulham Broadway at 9.40am) was because Bush invaded Iraq illegally.

Blair asked Bush for 6 more weeks to get the UN a second resolution. With this second resolution more countries would have troops on the ground and the world would be united in fighting terrorists. Bush let Blair down by saying  'let the UN vote' then he said 'the UN will not vote' theninvaded Iraq costing the lives of 1700 American soldiers and making new terrorists around the World.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2005, 04:06:31 AM »

What do you mean "who is responsible"?  Bush obviously chose to go to war against Saddam Hussein.  Saddam Hussein is responsible because his actions caused Bush to start the war, and Bush is responsible because he decided to start the war.

How is this an either/or question?  And for that matter, why does it matter?

I comiserate with the 7% of people who did not answer this question, although I suspect most of them were the standard 3-7% "idiot group" that fails to answer questions in every poll.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2005, 04:12:08 AM »

Well i was at Fulham Broodway when the attacks happened. So after some shock of both the attacks buit also how incredible the Brits composed themselves and got the job done i thhought why couldn't we be like that.

New York was chaos. People running around screaming, crying etc. But in London the police were like stay calm and get home by foot if you can.

The NY emergency services were just as brave and calm despite the anarchy the people created who then looked to Bush and said CATCH THE MAN THAT DID THIS.

6 months later Bush says i dont care where Bin Laden is and then invades Iraq.

Yesterdays attack on London was becasue they have troops in Bushs war. Like Madrid why isnt Paris or Berlin getting attacked...oh yes they didnt support Bushs war.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2005, 04:23:16 AM »

I do not think simply avoiding getting bombed is a valid reason to shape political policy.  That would mean they were entirely able to control us.

Neither is being contrarian, but the more we treat this like something not worthy of analyzation and the less we politicize it, the less likely it is to happen in the future.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2005, 04:29:27 AM »

Well trust me sitting in a 'tube' with no lights and hearing a loud explosion with people screaming and smashing windows for air isnt the greatest of movie settings for FOX news and Republican Propagadanists but it sure is scary.

I dont even want to imagine how Fox and other Republican weasels are playing this in America at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2005, 07:26:59 AM »

Well trust me sitting in a 'tube' with no lights and hearing a loud explosion with people screaming and smashing windows for air isnt the greatest of movie settings for FOX news and Republican Propagadanists but it sure is scary.

I dont even want to imagine how Fox and other Republican weasels are playing this in America at the moment.

Oh shut it already.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2005, 07:33:36 AM »

Saddam Hussein is responsible because his actions caused Bush to start the war

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2005, 07:40:29 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2005, 07:41:17 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.

That war was never declared in the first place.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2005, 07:41:41 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.

Liberals don't understand what the term "cease fire" exactly entails.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2005, 07:43:23 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.

Liberals don't understand what the term "cease fire" exactly entails.

Conservatives don't understand what the term "Constitution" exactly entails.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2005, 08:13:52 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.

That war was never declared in the first place.

You've once again forgotten what I've already told you (in response to your own question) regarding modern wars.  A formal declaration is not necessary by the Congress under the War Powers agreement.  *sigh*  But I'm just wasting time remind you, I'm sure.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2005, 08:49:14 AM »


Saddam is responsible, since he invaded Kuwait.  The war from 1991 never ended.

That war was never declared in the first place.

You've once again forgotten what I've already told you (in response to your own question) regarding modern wars.  A formal declaration is not necessary by the Congress under the War Powers agreement.  *sigh*  But I'm just wasting time remind you, I'm sure.

You are right. But I strongly disapprove of the War powers agreement in principle.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2005, 08:51:52 AM »

You are right. But I strongly disapprove of the War powers agreement in principle.

Yes, I have issues with it as well.  While small/short deployments of troops are ok under the authorization of the President, I think full engagement needs to be declared.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2005, 11:28:10 AM »

MissCatholic started the war. Go away.
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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2005, 11:55:26 AM »

What was the *real* reason for the war?
Was it because Haliburton stock holders wanted it,
or because Bush wanted to get re-elected?
Or both?

*yawn*
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2005, 03:36:15 PM »

Saddam Hussein is responsible because his actions caused Bush to start the war

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Uh...Saddam Hussein was rather blatantly killing his citizens, and did previously trade in Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Without him, it's unlikely we would have invaded Iraq.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2005, 04:42:52 PM »

Saddam Hussein is responsible because his actions caused Bush to start the war

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Uh...Saddam Hussein was rather blatantly killing his citizens, and did previously trade in Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Without him, it's unlikely we would have invaded Iraq.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2005, 03:52:46 AM »

Look the bottom line is Bushs pals wanted to invade Iraq before he was even elected President.

On election night they panicked as they thought Bush might lose...hence they stole Florida.

The powers at be wanted a bush presidency and they aint nothing we can do about it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2005, 07:56:02 AM »


why would he care about a former CIA agent?
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2005, 08:53:24 AM »

Look the bottom line is Bushs pals wanted to invade Iraq before he was even elected President.

On election night they panicked as they thought Bush might lose...hence they stole Florida.

The powers at be wanted a bush presidency and they aint nothing we can do about it.

LOL at the troll.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2005, 04:54:28 PM »

Bush, obviously.  Saddam is only peripherally responsible in that he did not have a nuclear arsenal to fend off the aggressor.  His error has been noted by North Korea and Iran.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2005, 06:28:05 PM »

Bush, obviously.  Saddam is only peripherally responsible in that he did not have a nuclear arsenal to fend off the aggressor.  His error has been noted by North Korea and Iran.

Saddam violated the cease fire.  We just finished the job.  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2005, 07:04:21 PM »

Bush, obviously.  Saddam is only peripherally responsible in that he did not have a nuclear arsenal to fend off the aggressor.  His error has been noted by North Korea and Iran.

Saddam violated the cease fire.  We just finished the job.  Smiley

Yes, because he had no nuclear weapons, poor fellow.
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2005, 11:58:34 PM »

Bush, obviously.  Saddam is only peripherally responsible in that he did not have a nuclear arsenal to fend off the aggressor.  His error has been noted by North Korea and Iran.

Saddam violated the cease fire.  We just finished the job.  Smiley

Yes, because he had no nuclear weapons, poor fellow.

hehehe . . . he was far from poor.  His people on the other hand . . .
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