GOP Terrified Florida Might Turn Into Another California

[Frodo]

They really shouldn't be surprised at the fact that if they reject Hispanics and immigrants, they in turn will reject the GOP:

Clinton’s 30-point lead in Florida Hispanic poll is ‘terrifying’ to GOP nationwide

By Marc Caputo
11/03/16 06:41 PM EDT

MIAMI —

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[White Trash]

If the GOP becomes the party of Yeb/Rubio, they could avoid this.

[Kevin]

If the GOP becomes the party of Yeb/Rubio, they could avoid this.

Correct,

FL Hispanics may not be fans of Trump or Romney but Flawless Marco and other downballot FL GOPer's are/have done MUCH better by far among Latino groups then the standard -bearers.

[Dr. Arch]

If either Texas or Florida become like FL, they'd be a dead party. They better hope they don't, but they're certainly on track for it.

[Orser67]

The migration of hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to Florida could be the single most important political migration of this era

[Xing]

If Trump does tank in Florida, Republicans will have to work hard to rebrand themselves, otherwise some of the damage he's done will be permanent, and FL could be gone for them.

[TJ in Oregon]

If the GOP becomes the party of Yeb/Rubio, they could avoid this.

If the GOP becomes the party of Jeb, winning Florida will be the least of their worries.

[Comrade Funk]

If the GOP becomes the party of Yeb/Rubio, they could avoid this.

The leadership is too pussywhipped from 50 years of appeasing to morons to do something sensible like that.

[Dr. Arch]

The migration of hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to Florida could be the single most important political migration of this era

You're welcome

[hopper]

Lets see just comparing:

Hispanic Population% make-up of Florida:

1970: 7%
2015: 25%

Hispanic Population% make-up of California

1970: 14%
2015: 39%

[Ljube]

If either Texas or Florida become like FL, they'd be a dead party. They better hope they don't, but they're certainly on track for it.

The GOP is already a dead party.

[hopper]

If the GOP becomes the party of Yeb/Rubio, they could avoid this.

The leadership is too pussywhipped from 50 years of appeasing to morons to do something sensible like that.

The last 2 Presidential Elections they have been stupid. The only lost the Presidency in 1992 because the economy was "just bad enough" for Bush H.W. to lose to Bill Clinton.  The" US House Banking Scandal" that happened in the second half of Reagans second term and continued during Bush H.W.'s single term in office I think was also a factor in Bush H.W.'s 1992 loss. Finally, Bush H.W,'s looking at his watch during 1 of the 3 Presidential Debates pretty much broke off voters relationship with him.

[hopper]

If either Texas or Florida become like FL, they'd be a dead party. They better hope they don't, but they're certainly on track for it.

The GOP is already a dead party.

Well the GOP was in way worse shape than they are now during some of FDR's tenure electorally and after Watergate happened with Nixon.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The RPOF is the strongest statewide chapter of the GOP. I'm willing to bet that we'll be fine in Florida regardless of demographics as long as the next generation is as smart as the rising one that is starting to get a hold of the party now.

[eric82oslo]

Lets see just comparing:

Hispanic Population% make-up of Florida:

1970: 7%
2015: 25%

Hispanic Population% make-up of California

1970: 14%
2015: 39%

This means that Florida is lagging California with about 20-25 years, or that Florida today is comparable to California around 1990 or in the early 90ies. We know that the real political transformation in California happened in the 1990s. So the next ten years could be utterly crucial for the political future of Florida. We might see really big changes eventually. (I guess that much of the same goes for Arizona and Texas in fact. Though everything is clearly not comparable.)

[Shadows]

Florida is the next big Blue State.

And Arizona is also could be added to the Blue column.

And Texas is also gonna trend blue in 10 years IMO!

Hispanics will be decisive - I hope Dems don't abandon the rust belt because these gains could be completely wiped out with losses in OH, PA, MN, MI, WI, etc!

[Kleine Scheiße]

If FL, AZ, and TX go safe dem, this is the worst likely result for Democrats:

And this is the best likely democratic result:

In other words, the GOP can not win without FL, AZ, and TX.

[eric82oslo]

And this is the best likely democratic result:

In other words, the GOP can not win without FL, AZ, and TX.

The best case scenario doesn't include North Carolina?

[EpicHistory]

If FL, AZ, and TX go safe dem, this is the worst likely result for Democrats:

Even Trump won Wisconsin, and nearly got Minnesota while large areas of New England trended his way. Missouri voted more Republican than Mississippi, etc....

I think the worst case is WAY too in favor of the Democrats.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Dems need to focus on Pennsylvania in 2018, getting Wolfe and Casey Jr reelected, its more important than Florida.

[Person Man]

Dems need to focus on Pennsylvania in 2018, getting Wolfe and Casey Jr reelected, its more important than Florida.

We need to Nelson reelected and work ondestricting in FL. In 2024, it will be FL 31 and PA 18!

[Virginiá]

Florida Gov in 2018 is pretty important for Democrats in regards to redistricting. Every Democrat on the FL Supreme Court faces mandatory retirement in 2019 and if a GOP governor succeeds Scott, a 100% Republican-appointed bench will most likely rule in favor of the legislature when it comes to redistricting lawsuits. They will essentially make the Fair Maps amendment useless.

Winning that race would also allow us to veto rigged maps for Congressional districts and avoid years of lawsuits/a bad map. Legislative maps can't bet vetoed though. Otherwise, if we lose FL 2018, we'll have to work to get redistricting commission initiatives on the ballot for 2020.

Afaik, Wolf has low approval ratings and I worry about him in 2018. However, the PA Supreme Court is absurdly Democratic at this point and with the passage of the judicial retirement amendment, those Democrats will stay on the bench for 5 years longer than normal. Because the PA Supreme Court can appoint the final member of the legislative redistricting commission should the evenly divided body not agree on one, Democrats are in position to gerrymander PA's legislative districts in 2021 if they want, or at least force fair maps. Wolf/a Democrat is needed to veto bad Congressional maps, though.

[Young Conservative]

Florida Gov in 2018 is pretty important for Democrats in regards to redistricting. Every Democrat on the FL Supreme Court faces mandatory retirement in 2019 and if a GOP governor succeeds Scott, a 100% Republican-appointed bench will most likely rule in favor of the legislature when it comes to redistricting lawsuits. They will essentially make the Fair Maps amendment useless.

Winning that race would also allow us to veto rigged maps for Congressional districts and avoid years of lawsuits/a bad map. Legislative maps can't bet vetoed though. Otherwise, if we lose FL 2018, we'll have to work to get redistricting commission initiatives on the ballot for 2020.

Afaik, Wolf has low approval ratings and I worry about him in 2018. However, the PA Supreme Court is absurdly Democratic at this point and with the passage of the judicial retirement amendment, those Democrats will stay on the bench for 5 years longer than normal. Because the PA Supreme Court can appoint the final member of the legislative redistricting commission should the evenly divided body not agree on one, Democrats are in position to gerrymander PA's legislative districts in 2021 if they want, or at least force fair maps. Wolf/a Democrat is needed to veto bad Congressional maps, though.

Adam Putnam will be our next governor. You heard it here first folks.

[pbrower2a]

I am more terrified that Republicans have transformed Michigan and Wisconsin into 'another Alabama' and 'another Mississippi'.

[Young Conservative]

Florida is the next big Blue State.

And Arizona is also could be added to the Blue column.

And Texas is also gonna trend blue in 10 years IMO!

Hispanics will be decisive - I hope Dems don't abandon the rust belt because these gains could be completely wiped out with losses in OH, PA, MN, MI, WI, etc!

You're funny if you think Florida and Texas will be Blue within ten years. Florida will remain highly polarized and remain a swing state and Texas will trend R next election.