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« on: November 03, 2016, 04:47:31 PM »



Chatter grows that Ryan could step down
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/304245-chatter-grows-that-ryan-could-step-down

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 04:48:23 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 04:51:19 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2016, 05:51:00 PM by Representative Kingpoleon »

I can't see Scalise getting it if the GOP only has, say, 225 seats. McCarthy, McMorris Rodgers, and Walden are the others in the top five.

Personally, I prefer Ryan to McCarthy and Scalise.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 04:51:40 PM »

Not surprising. There will be a full-blown Republican civil war after November 8.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 04:53:07 PM »

I can't see Scalise getting it if the GOP only has, say, 425 seats. McCarthy, McMorris Rodgers, and Walden are the others in the top five.

Personally, I prefer Ryan to McCarthy and Scalise.

Are there even Republican candidates running in 425 seats!?
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 04:53:12 PM »

I can't see Scalise getting it if the GOP only has, say, 425 seats. McCarthy, McMorris Rodgers, and Walden are the others in the top five.

Personally, I prefer Ryan to McCarthy and Scalise.
You mean 225, not 425, right? I agree, I don't like McCarthy or Scalise, I support the Speaker.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 04:53:19 PM »

Andropov or Chernenko?
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 04:53:25 PM »

If I was Ryan I would resign, let the freedom caucus see how worthless and useless they are.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 04:54:16 PM »

Not surprising. There will be a full-blown Republican civil war after November 8.

Basically, the GOP is going into the wilderness or are preparing for Trump's putsch.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 04:55:15 PM »

GOOD LUCK FINDING A SPEAKER REPUBLICANS THAT WON'T JUST BE DEPOSED IN ANOTHER MONTH
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 04:55:38 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2016, 05:00:56 PM by Meclazine »

Well, if this election goes down to the wire, and Trump loses by the slimmest margin, you could easily lay blame on Ryan for not backing his party 100%.

Trump would be ahead today if they just relaxed and got their act coherent.

Top Republicans have acted terribly towards a process that they endorsed to begin with.

If they did not want non-establishment outsiders like media-hyped Trump, they should have used super-delegates and just played dirty tricks to make sure he didn't get in.

It worked for the Democrats with Sanders.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2016, 04:58:32 PM »

McCarthy already embarrassed himself. It's going to be Scalise!
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2016, 04:59:45 PM »

Well, if those goes down to the wire, and Trump loses by the slimmest margin, you could easily lay blame on Ryan for not backing his party 100%.

TRUMP did not back the party 100%.

he thrashed the party elders and most of the establishment, popular govs, senators and everyone who didn't 100% agree with him.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2016, 05:01:20 PM »

McCarthy already embarrassed himself. It's going to be Scalise!
Why would he be so eager to become the lightning rod for the base?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 05:01:56 PM »

As predicted.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2016, 05:04:00 PM »

McCarthy already embarrassed himself. It's going to be Scalise!
Why would he be so eager to become the lightning rod for the base?

the question here really is why would anyone want to become Speaker - its a horrible job.

I'm almost thinking, as happened in someone's timeline, that Trump might just take it for the lolz.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2016, 05:04:05 PM »

Hopefully the democrats can get enough seats with the moderate Gop to take control...God help this country if the fake freedom caucus gets control...Say hello to a third world country.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2016, 05:05:10 PM »

Perhaps he's stepping down because Evan McMullin plans to instruct his electors to vote Paul Ryan for President IF he carries Utah AND neither major candidate gets to 270 EV.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2016, 05:05:20 PM »

Hopefully the democrats can get enough seats with the moderate Gop to take control...God help this country if the fake freedom caucus gets control...Say hello to a third world country.

If the Dems take the Senate than it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2016, 05:05:56 PM »

Perhaps he's stepping down because Evan McMullin plans to instruct his electors to vote Paul Ryan for President IF he carries Utah AND neither major candidate gets to 270 EV.

That's a rather long shot on which to be making plans.
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2016, 05:12:24 PM »

Assuming Paul Ryan does end his tenure next week, it will be the shortest tenure as Speaker of the House since the 1870s (Michael Kerr only served 257 days, and only two other speakers not including Kerr served shorter than Ryan - John Bell and Theodore Pomeroy).
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2016, 05:16:09 PM »

Damn!!!
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2016, 05:19:12 PM »

Hopefully the democrats can get enough seats with the moderate Gop to take control...God help this country if the fake freedom caucus gets control...Say hello to a third world country.

I could see a coalition between the Democrats and moderate Republicans being enough control the house. The new speaker would be either a moderate Republican or a centrist Democrat, (probably the former) committee chairmanships would probably be split down the middle, and Democrats might even get key votes (they'd have to convince some GOPers to vote yes to get passage tho) in return for promising to vote yes on appropriations bills and other stuff to keep the government's lights on. The freedom caucus would be completely shut out.
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2016, 05:35:28 PM »

Ryan never even wanted the job in the first place, I'm not surprised.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2016, 05:41:53 PM »

Hopefully the democrats can get enough seats with the moderate Gop to take control...God help this country if the fake freedom caucus gets control...Say hello to a third world country.

I could see a coalition between the Democrats and moderate Republicans being enough control the house. The new speaker would be either a moderate Republican or a centrist Democrat, (probably the former) committee chairmanships would probably be split down the middle, and Democrats might even get key votes (they'd have to convince some GOPers to vote yes to get passage tho) in return for promising to vote yes on appropriations bills and other stuff to keep the government's lights on. The freedom caucus would be completely shut out.
Ok. So where are these moderate republicans with a backbone?
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