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Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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Topic: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO (Read 3034 times)
HillOfANight
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Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:29:02 AM »
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October 25, 2016, 08:30:35 AM
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http://20an0w2e66jla4rfm1idisr1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ABC_Project_Timeline.pdf
https://twitter.com/jeffroe/status/790900744278806528
http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/
"Remington Research Group is a polling firm that specializes in automated IVR technology."
Colorado
Clinton 45
Trump 43
Florida
Clinton 46
Trump 46
Nevada
Clinton 44
Trump 47
North Carolina
Clinton 44
Trump 47
Ohio
Clinton 42
Trump 46
Pennsylvania
Clinton 45
Trump 42
Virginia
Clinton 48
Trump 43
Wisconsin
Clinton 46
Trump 41
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:30:25 AM »
Lol - next.
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LimoLiberal
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:30:45 AM »
Lol. There is literally nothing to support any of these numbers in any of these states.
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Gass3268
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:32:55 AM »
Anyone notice how Axiom stopped relaseing those county level polls whenever Trump was losing.
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Reapsow
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:33:24 AM »
God, I see a Trump tweetgasm coming.
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The Other Castro
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:35:20 AM »
Now that Cruz has fully uncucked, his pollster is following suit.
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HillOfANight
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:36:37 AM »
Quote from: Assemblyman Gass3268 on October 25, 2016, 08:32:55 AM
Anyone notice how Axiom stopped relaseing those county level polls whenever Trump was losing.
http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/
They did release a fresh batch. Movement everywhere, sometimes significantly to Clinton, except 2.
Jefferson CO C+2 > C+3
Hillsborough FL T+1 > C+2
Washoe NV T+17 > T+6
Watauga NC T+8 > T+4
Sandusky OH T+7 > T+5
Hamilton OH C+1 > T+1
Luzerne PA T+15 > T+11
Northampton PA T+8 > C+3
Loudoun VA C+2 > C+8
Door WI C+9 > C+7
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BoAtlantis
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:39:00 AM »
Finally polls that Trump can tweet about.
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calvinhobbesliker
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:44:16 AM »
This pollster seems to call landlines only.
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rafta_rafta
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:49:49 AM »
Now that even Rassy isn't showing a lead for HRC, this poll will become the new gold standard
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Erich Maria Remarque
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:52:43 AM »
Quote from: ReapSow on October 25, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
God, I see a Trump tweetgasm coming.
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Sir Mohamed
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 08:57:30 AM »
Tie in FL and the faker up in NC and NV?
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Classic Conservative
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 09:00:52 AM »
Just add 5 to Clinton then it seems right.
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Fusionmunster
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 09:07:25 AM »
Landline only robo poll, what fun.
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HillOfANight
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 09:15:02 AM »
They don't really detail their methodology. Who knows if the spike the D number up 3 like Emerson to not look like complete outliers.
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Clamdick McClaw
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 09:40:25 AM »
We now take you to an Atlas-Exclusive look-in at the Remington-Axiom polling outfit in action calling voters in Ohio!
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Landslide Lyndon
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 09:42:30 AM »
Has there ever been any other election with so many crappy pollsters?
All we need now is a McLaughlin New York poll showing Trump into the margin of error.
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psychprofessor
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 10:19:37 AM »
Is this Emerson's half brother pollster lol
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ProudModerate2
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 10:25:41 AM »
LOL.
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Maxwell
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 12:07:13 PM »
Isn't this one of Ted Cruz's old guys polling company? I think it was Jeff Roe's company.
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HagridOfTheDeep
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 12:21:14 PM »
Sh-t polls, but I think it's time for Team Hillary to start thinking about that next big oppo hit. There's enough evidence to suggest that things are slowly trickling back in Trump's direction. If we don't get anything soon, I'm inclined to believe there's nothing left. Which is too bad, because they should have known there'd be two weeks at the end of the campaign with no built-in attention-grabbing events to prevent the campaign from starting to naturally feel stale. And boringness helps Trump.
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 12:21:58 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on October 25, 2016, 12:21:14 PM
Sh-t polls, but I think it's time for Team Hillary to start thinking about that next big oppo hit. There's enough evidence to suggest that things are slowly trickling back in Trump's direction. If we don't get anything soon, I'm inclined to believe there's nothing left. Which is too bad, because they should have known there'd be two weeks at the end of the campaign with no built-in attention-grabbing events to prevent the campaign from starting to naturally feel stale. And boringness helps Trump.
I don't agree that there's that much evidence of that. There's a lot of new trash polls mucking up averages.
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IceSpear
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 01:16:26 PM »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on October 25, 2016, 12:21:14 PM
Sh-t polls, but I think it's time for Team Hillary to start thinking about that next big oppo hit. There's enough evidence to suggest that things are slowly trickling back in Trump's direction. If we don't get anything soon, I'm inclined to believe there's nothing left. Which is too bad, because they should have known there'd be two weeks at the end of the campaign with no built-in attention-grabbing events to prevent the campaign from starting to naturally feel stale. And boringness helps Trump.
Yeah, just look at this Trump surge in the making:
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HagridOfTheDeep
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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October 25, 2016, 01:25:33 PM »
^ The same could have been said at pretty much every point in the race when Trump did actually begin to surge (though I would characterize these periods as Hillary slowly collapsing, not Trump surging). Plus, these periods have been dominated by characteristics similar to what we're seeing now. Namely, a certain kind of quiet from Trump and a pause or staleness in the overarching narrative of the election. It gives reporters a chance to dig into Hillary bullsh-t, and slowly everyone chips away at her numbers.
Trump has enough evidence now to know that he might as well avoid serious controversy, and there's not really anything on the horizon that could shake up the race. The gravity of Hillary's poll numbers will just naturally start to bring her back down to earth unless they're deliberately held up by a new narrative.
I want to stress that it's not major enough for her to actually lose, but +5 isn't exactly fantastic when we know she has the potential to do so much better in this match-up. And if they are sitting on a big oppo hit, let's get it out there in the next half a week.
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Re: Remington/Axiom: Tie in FL, Trump up in NV/NC/OH, Clinton up PA/VA/WI/CO
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Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on October 25, 2016, 01:25:33 PM
^ The same could have been said at pretty much every point in the race when Trump did actually begin to surge (though I would characterize these periods as Hillary slowly collapsing, not Trump surging). Plus, these periods have been dominated by characteristics similar to what we're seeing now. Namely, a certain kind of quiet from Trump and a pause or staleness in the overarching narrative of the election. It gives reporters a chance to dig into Hillary bullsh-t, and slowly everyone chips away at her numbers.
Trump has enough evidence now to know that he might as well avoid serious controversy, and there's not really anything on the horizon that could shake up the race. The gravity of Hillary's poll numbers will just naturally start to bring her back down to earth unless they're deliberately held up by a new narrative.
I want to stress that it's not major enough for her to actually lose, but +5 isn't exactly fantastic when we know she has the potential to do so much better in this match-up. And if they are sitting on a big oppo hit, let's get it out there in the next half a week.
I agree with this entirely. I really,
really
hope they have one last hit coming.
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