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« on: October 10, 2016, 07:08:52 PM »



Donald Trump is basically urging his white supporters to suppress the black vote in Philadelphia at his rally there
https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/785630881192955904

Trump is now alleging that the election may be stolen from him in Philadelphia "and everybody knows what I am talking about"
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/785630657087172611
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 07:10:17 PM »



Donald Trump is basically urging his white supporters to suppress the black vote in Philadelphia at his rally there
https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/785630881192955904

Trump is now alleging that the election may be stolen from him in Philadelphia "and everybody knows what I am talking about"
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/785630657087172611

Trump Translation: I'm trailing by double digits in PA, HELP!!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 07:10:50 PM »

Do either of these folks have a source or a clip of Trump saying that? Genuinely curious.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 07:12:18 PM »

It's funny how Republican politicians try to suppress black (and other minorities) voters by locking them up in jail and have voter suppression laws take place, yet they end up having the highest turnout among everyone.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 07:16:17 PM »

Trump thinks if women, blacks, hispanics, people from urban areas, people with a college education, and people with basic decency vote, then it's voter fraud. That's not especially surprising.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 07:16:46 PM »

Do either of these folks have a source or a clip of Trump saying that? Genuinely curious.

it's the rally from today out of PA and ofc he didn't say "black people" but from urban voters in phillie. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 07:17:30 PM »

Do either of these folks have a source or a clip of Trump saying that? Genuinely curious.

it's the rally from today out of PA and ofc he didn't say "black people" but from urban voters in phillie. Wink

Well shucks. Glad to see dog whistle politics has reared its ugly head again.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 07:17:57 PM »

also, this really doesn't sound like a man who won the debate triumphantly as supporters seem to believe.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 07:20:40 PM »

White supremacists going into North and/or West Philadelphia to stir up trouble is probably not going to end well at all.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2016, 07:22:10 PM »

That's adorable that Donald thinks the election is close enough to be stolen from him. Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 07:23:17 PM »

trump promises to campaign like mad in the phillie suburbs for the next couple of weeks......and the stadium he is only filled with 8000 people....in april 10.000 people came to see him at the same place.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 07:23:26 PM »

Yes, urban blacks will steal the election by voting in record numbers for Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 07:26:44 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2016, 07:28:49 PM »

So a person on Twitter claims Trump says something without a shred of evidence. Ya'll for real?
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 07:29:52 PM »

So a person on Twitter claims Trump says something without a shred of evidence. Ya'll for real?
Are you not familiar with the concept of "reporters"?
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2016, 07:32:29 PM »

Are you not familiar with the concept of "reporters"?

Yes,  but it appears you are not with the terms "evidence" and "verification".
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2016, 07:33:58 PM »

Are you not familiar with the concept of "reporters"?

Yes,  but it appears you are not with the terms "evidence" and "verification".

Those reporters are literally at the rally. They are reporting what they're hearing.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2016, 07:35:26 PM »

What if, on election night, instead of giving a concession speech, he issues a call to arms and his goons go to black and Hispanic neighborhoods and start a rampage?
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2016, 07:35:56 PM »

everyone can watch the rally right now, it gets uploaded directly...i am pretty sure we are going to get the soundbites.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2016, 07:36:26 PM »

Are you not familiar with the concept of "reporters"?

Yes,  but it appears you are not with the terms "evidence" and "verification".

This is from Sopan Deb of CBS, one of the embedded pool reporters covering Trump's campaign, with the relevant section from the transcript of Trump's speech today: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/785584725192744961

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2016, 07:36:42 PM »

It's funny how Republican politicians try to suppress black (and other minorities) voters by locking them up in jail and have voter suppression laws take place, yet they end up having the highest turnout among everyone.

No, we just want people to show ID when they vote. Given that we require ID to buy alcohol, is this too much to ask? This is the best way to prevent voter fraud.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2016, 07:38:03 PM »

Those reporters are literally at the rally. They are reporting what they're hearing.

On Twitter, with no evidence. Ben Jacobs tweet is only saying Trump said PA could be stolen, as well. Chris Megerian even says "basically", which means Trump likely didn't say that.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2016, 07:38:53 PM »

Those reporters are literally at the rally. They are reporting what they're hearing.

On Twitter, with no evidence. Ben Jacobs tweet is only saying Trump said PA could be stolen, as well. Chris Megerian even says "basically", which means Trump likely didn't say that.

Trump has literally said this exact thing about PA before.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2016, 07:39:04 PM »

"Trump once again offered a vague, evidence-free warning of voter fraud in Pennsylvania. He told the almost entirely all-white crowd “it’s so important that you watch other communities because we don’t want this election stolen from us”. He has made this statement several times in the past in the Keystone state, seemingly based on a popular rightwing conspiracy theory that Mitt Romney was the victim of voter fraud in Philadelphia in 2012. "
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/10/donald-trump-bill-hillary-clinton-attacks
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2016, 07:44:53 PM »

It's funny how Republican politicians try to suppress black (and other minorities) voters by locking them up in jail and have voter suppression laws take place, yet they end up having the highest turnout among everyone.

No, we just want people to show ID when they vote. Given that we require ID to buy alcohol, is this too much to ask? This is the best way to prevent voter fraud.

It's not too much to ask *if* the government provides the IDs free and makes it easy to obtain them (i.e., voters should not have to travel 50 miles to the next county, as Alabama has attempted to do.)  If the voter has to pay anything to obtain an ID necessary to vote, it becomes equivalent to a poll tax, which is explicitly unconstitutional by the 24th Amendment.  It follows that if voters must present ID, the state has an obligation to provide it to them at no cost.

Ideally. we would neither disenfranchise any legitimate voters from voting, nor would we allow any illegitimate voters.  However, in an imperfect world it's virtually impossible to accomplish both of these goals, so it's better to err on the side of enfranchisement; this is similar to the principle that it's better to let ten guilty men go free than to convict one innocent.  Although in the case of voting, the numbers are heavily in the other direction; there have been very few documented cases of actual voter fraud, while many legitimate voters have been questionably disenfranchised.
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