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« on: October 06, 2016, 06:45:52 PM »

44% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)
5% Johnson (L)
2% Stein (G)

48% Clinton (D)
47% Trump (R)

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 06:46:25 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 06:47:09 PM »

This is great news considering a lot of polls show Trump ahead here.

Also - a state where Barack Obama would help massively.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 06:47:41 PM »

Amazing how many people thought OH was totally gone for Hillary mere days ago. Trump could still win here, but I'd call it Toss-Up/Tilt D at the moment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 06:47:53 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2016, 06:49:57 PM by dspNY »


Trump is completely toast...In most of Ohio the maize and blue is Satan or something close to an unholy spirit
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 06:48:16 PM »

Yep, this is confirmation that OH has swung back and that Trump is in need of the ICU.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 06:48:46 PM »

I am starting to buy into TN's theory that Trump is collapsing.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 06:49:50 PM »

It would be kind of shocking if Clinton weren't ahead today after Trump's worst week of the campaign.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 06:50:55 PM »

This is great news considering a lot of polls show Trump ahead here.

Also - a state where Barack Obama would help massively.

He's going a GOTV rally in Cleveland on the 14th.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 06:54:29 PM »

I am starting to buy into TN's theory that Trump is collapsing.

Being down by a single point in a swing state isn't really indicative of a collapse.  I don't think we'll know for sure what's going on until we see post-2nd debate polls.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 06:56:30 PM »

I am starting to buy into TN's theory that Trump is collapsing.

Being down by a single point in a swing state isn't really indicative of a collapse.  I don't think we'll know for sure what's going on until we see post-2nd debate polls.

True.

But he is losing ground everywhere and outside of IA, Ohio has been his strongest swing state.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 06:56:54 PM »

It would be kind of shocking if Clinton weren't ahead today after Trump's worst week of the campaign.

theoretically true.

practical: he was seen with a kind of 5% lead...not so easy to implode i guess.

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53% female, 38% dem, 36% rep, 83% white

looks right.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2016, 06:57:27 PM »

Great news.
I sure hope the second debate goes well for Clinton.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 06:59:16 PM »

It will be very interesting to see what happens to Trump's numbers when he bombs the town hall debate.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 07:04:34 PM »

anything even close on election day is tilt clinton - trump has no GOTV in Ohio; Clinton is sponsoring a "souls to the polls" early vote campaign...
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 07:09:50 PM »

as long as trump was tied or even maybe ahead a little bit (combined with high-motivation for his campaign)...i think he could have busted clinton's groundgame.

if the motivation of his followers decreases or he is behind in polls....i guess the groundgame becomes important.
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 07:12:25 PM »

As for potential for sore-loser attitudes:

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My comment: Should Hillary Clinton win Ohio, then she will have won it fair and square despite Ohio having one of the more popular republican governors.

I now see a Trump collapse. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 07:16:28 PM »

Bernie needs to hit Ohio State University, UC, U of Ohio, and Wright State & Kent State.

It will come down to GOTV and getting the young 'uns to jump on the Clinton train, recognizing that although we can't always get what we want, if we try, we'll come pretty damn close, especially with Clinton adopting more progressive platforms during the primaries and convention, and add a little bit of leverage in the Senate with a Dem majority and Bernie a major player, we'll create forward movement and get a few more first downs and a couple scores in the process.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 07:28:42 PM »

this is a 3 point shift in trump's favor since last poll, i still believe he'll win.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 07:32:03 PM »

It's a good poll, sure, but let's not blow things out of proportion.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2016, 07:44:29 PM »

this is a 3 point shift in trump's favor since last poll, i still believe he'll win.

source, please Smiley

last ohio poll from PPP according to RCP was in july....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_clinton-5634.html#polls

and tied.

otherwise clinton's OH polling was apocalyptic for a month at least.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2016, 07:53:14 PM »

PPP is a great poll.

It got all of the swing states that they polled correctly in 2012, some of them with correct margins too.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2016, 08:19:43 PM »

Dems
Clinton 83%
Trump 11%
Johnson 3%
Stein 0%

GOP
Trump 79%
Clinton 12%
Johnson 2%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 40%
Clinton 29%
Johnson 12%
Stein 7%

Johnson draws more support from Trump, while Stein draws more support from Clinton:

People who back Clinton in the 2-way:
Clinton 91%
Johnson 3%
Stein 3%

People who back Trump in the 2-way:
Trump 91%
Johnson 5%
Stein 1%
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2016, 08:30:17 PM »

Dems
Clinton 83%
Trump 11%
Johnson 3%
Stein 0%

GOP
Trump 79%
Clinton 12%
Johnson 2%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 40%
Clinton 29%
Johnson 12%
Stein 7%

Johnson draws more support from Trump, while Stein draws more support from Clinton:

People who back Clinton in the 2-way:
Clinton 91%
Johnson 3%
Stein 3%

People who back Trump in the 2-way:
Trump 91%
Johnson 5%
Stein 1%


But Stein draws more Republicans than Democrats...
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2016, 08:53:59 PM »


But Stein draws more Republicans than Democrats...

Republicans are severely low intelligence. Let's be thankful the group that only likes to regurgitate the last thing they hear only manages to give 1% to her.
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