Would you have supported the Business Plot?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

No of course, but I bet the hardcore FDR haters would prefer even a fascist government to him.

[PBrunsel]

Of course not, and most sane Republican Congressmen laughed when they heard of this "Plot against FDR" later in the 1950's.

[A18]

What would be the difference between this fascist government and the one we already had under FDR?

[PBrunsel]

What would be the difference between this fascist government and the one we already had under FDR?

Good point Phillip. FDR's economic facism of the New deal was just as bad as this. The new deal did give us one good thing, amazing WPA projects to visit while traveling America.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What would be the difference between this fascist government and the one we already had under FDR?

Well FDR opposed fascism in Europe for starters, plus we still had elections under him.

[Cubby]

What would be the difference between this fascist government and the one we already had under FDR?

I've had this arguement before. For the millionth time:

Fascism is a right-wing ideology. FDR was left wing. You can't be fascist AND left-wing. I wish you Republicans would stop denying this. The businessmen in this plot wanted the state to be subservient to corporations, while neither party supports this today, it is closer to the GOP line than the Dems.

[The Duke]

What would be the difference between this fascist government and the one we already had under FDR?

I've had this arguement before. For the millionth time:

Fascism is a right-wing ideology. FDR was left wing. You can't be fascist AND left-wing. I wish you Republicans would stop denying this. The businessmen in this plot wanted the state to be subservient to corporations, while neither party supports this today, it is closer to the GOP line than the Dems.

Correction.  Fascism, in its modern meaning anyway, is state control of all national affairs (economic, cultural, political).  State ownership of, or at least integration with, major national industries, state control of cultural and social activities, and the lack of individual rights ar ethe markers of fascism.  This is neither left or right wing.  Left wingers say that fascism is right wing so as to smear the right, but can anyone say that Stalin was a rightist?  Mao?  Pol Pot?  Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-il?  Tito?  Ho Chi Minh?  Castro?  These were fascist communists.

[DanielX]

No. I would have instead voted for Hoover, Landon, Willkie, and Dewey.

[A18]

No. I would have instead voted for Hoover, Landon, Willkie, and Dewey.

Except FDR campaigned as a fiscal conservative. I would have voted for FDR, Landon, Willkie, Dewey.

[PBrunsel]

No. I would have instead voted for Hoover, Landon, Willkie, and Dewey.

Except FDR campaigned as a fiscal conservative. I would have voted for FDR, Landon, Willkie, Dewey.

He actually played both sides of the issue. In Chicago he was a fiscal conservative, attacking Hoover for "big" spending. But in Los Angeles he was a liberal who called for massive government programs, and attacked Hoover for not doing enough.

He was a flip-flopper for the ages.

[jokerman]

It should be noted that Hitler's national socialism is a distinct brand of fascism and that normally fascism is heavily supported by the corporate interests and is somewhat rightist economically.  So, I find it absurd that some compare FDR's policies to economic fascism.  Boarderline socialism, perhaps, and what the time required, but not fascism.

[Rob]

He actually played both sides of the issue. In Chicago he was a fiscal conservative, attacking Hoover for "big" spending. But in Los Angeles he was a liberal who called for massive government programs, and attacked Hoover for not doing enough.

His platform was fiscally conservative, and attacked Hoover for deficit spending among other things.

[PBrunsel]

He actually played both sides of the issue. In Chicago he was a fiscal conservative, attacking Hoover for "big" spending. But in Los Angeles he was a liberal who called for massive government programs, and attacked Hoover for not doing enough.

His platform was fiscally conservative, and attacked Hoover for deficit spending among other things.

As I pointed out, that is true, but he also played the "big spender" card.