HB 2016-1032 - Nuclear Weapon Reduction Act (PASSED TO SENATE)
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« on: September 15, 2016, 04:11:49 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2016, 04:56:20 PM »

This bill doesn't and won't receive my support. We should build more weapons of my mass destruction not less.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2016, 05:06:54 PM »

This bill has my full support, the partial  elimination of nuclear weapons is not only healthy for Atlasia but for the international community at large. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2016, 05:20:30 PM »

I of course support nuclear disarmament and concur with the statement by Representative AZ that such is in the best interest of Atlasia and the international community as a whole. However, I am not convinced that unilateral disarmament is the best strategy here; I am interested to hear from the sponsor why this plan is preferable to a multilateral disarmament treaty that would bind all nuclear powers (not just Atlasia).

We should build more weapons of my mass destruction not less.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 05:41:35 PM »

This act would require us to reduce our nuclear stockpile to below 1,000 by the year 2025 in order to reduce the likelihood of nuclear warfare between states and in order to recognise that our defence priorities have moved towards cyber-crime and terrorism, which nuclear weapons cannot defend against.

Additionally, this bill will end the nuclear sharing with European nations as part of a commitment to reduce nuclear stockpiles worldwide with the eventual goal of complete nuclear disarmament when there is no threat of a rouge state or group using nuclear weapons against another nation. Also, this bill would see us request that our NATO allies of France and the United Kingdom to completely disarm, to enable them to spend money building their economies and due to us having around 99% of NATO's nuclear weapons.

I of course support nuclear disarmament and concur with the statement by Representative AZ that such is in the best interest of Atlasia and the international community as a whole. However, I am not convinced that unilateral disarmament is the best strategy here; I am interested to hear from the sponsor why this plan is preferable to a multilateral disarmament treaty that would bind all nuclear powers (not just Atlasia).
This act would only bring about a unilateral reduction of our nuclear stockpile. I'm willing to re-word clauses two and three to make it clearer the aim of the act: to attempt to bring about a multilateral reduction in stockpiles and multilateral disarmament when there's no potential nuclear threat from elsewhere.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 02:40:00 AM »

I fully support this bill as is, I agree with Representative Classic that we need a nuclear deterrent, BUT we do not need to "increase" the amount of nuclear weapons, I would not supporting getting rid of nuclear weapons completely, but there is substantial room for reduction.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 11:19:19 PM »

With no debate in 72 hours on this bill I motion for a final vote on this vote.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 12:11:23 PM »

With no debate in 72 hours on this bill I motion for a final vote on this vote.
I second this motion.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 03:32:04 PM »

With no debate in 72 hours on this bill I motion for a final vote on this vote.
I second this motion.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 03:33:18 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 04:31:15 PM »

I open this up for a final 48-hour principle vote
Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 04:32:32 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 04:32:39 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 04:43:51 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2016, 05:01:54 PM »

Aye!
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2016, 05:16:56 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2016, 07:21:47 PM »

It's a noble goal, but not one that's currently workable. I have far too many problems with this bill as it currently stands.

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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2016, 08:01:48 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2016, 06:50:43 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2016, 04:16:52 PM »

Nay.

Mainly because I refuse to reduce our nuclear weapons to a point so far below Russia's. I would agree to this if and only if other countries institute similar programs.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2016, 11:45:48 AM »

By a vote of 6-3, this passes and goes to the Senate.

I'm sorry for not getting around to this stuff. I have had a really bad case of the flu.
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