Issues where 'your side' frustrates you

[Coolface Sock #42069]

The fact that they nominated Donald Trump for president.

Hypocritical criticism of Democrats for spending so much taxpayer money and then spending even more than the Democrats when we get full control of the federal government (2003-2007, for example). Also, claiming to want small government but being totally OK with mass surveillance, banning early-term abortions, banning gay marriage, and spending the absurd amount of money that American taxpayers spend on defense every year.

Harboring of bigotry, particularly racism and Islamophobia.

Outright, blatant demagoguery and spewing falsehoods to get votes. I understand that most if not all politicians do this, but I'm just criticizing my own party for now. You wouldn't believe the kind of crap that comes to me daily via email. Just ridiculous, hateful conspiracy theories to incite hatred against the left.

Refusal to make any type of meaningful investment in outreach to groups that are currently underrepresented in our coalition. I hate identity politics, but we can at least try to meet these people where they are (in other words, come to their communities and make our case and show concern and interest in their situations). Paul Ryan wanted to do this in 2012, but it got shut down.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Considering "your side" includes insane right-wing paranoia about SJWs killing White people, that's definitely for the best.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Immigration(both sides anger me on this issue)
Gay marriage
Global Warming(i dont think creating more regulations would work but denying it is dumb)

[President Johnson]

Although I consider myself a "center-left" person, the left often frustrates me on fiscal matters. Many to the left of the center just don't care about deficits (I admit some conservatives don't either (Dubya for example)). Deficit spending should only be an option in times of a great recession to stimulate growth on a short term basis (like Germany did in 2009 financial crises). In good times, we need a surplus to pay back the debt.

What also frustrates me with the left is bureaucracy. I like efficiency in government and in private enterprise. Regulations are necessary, particularly in the banking sector (should go even further), but too many regulations on small and medium-sized businesses as well as private citizens is terrible. Tax codes in many western countries should also be simplified.

I also disagree with some liberals/leftists on immigration. I don't want open borders. I want a common-sense legal immigration of people who are willing to integrate and contribute to the country's well being (what doesn't mean that they should forget all their traditions and heritage).

[Intell]

When they argue for polygamy or polyandry from this forum.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Promoting amoralism/moral relativism.

[RI]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Considering "your side" includes insane right-wing paranoia about SJWs killing White people, that's definitely for the best.

[White Trash]

Promoting amoralism/moral relativism.

[Phony Moderate]

This is probably not exactly what you mean by 'issue', but the increasingly snobbish view that much of the left has towards the working-class, as seen over the past few months. I've genuinely heard self-described socialists complain about "those damn benefit scroungers" who took us out of the EU.

Promoting amoralism/moral relativism.

This too.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

In general, just the idea that grown adults are too stupid to know what's good for them and should be treated like helpless and ignorant toddlers. Some examples:

- Proposing a year or two in a Norwegian spa resort as "punishment" (oops, I mean "rehabilitation"!) for mass murderers, terrorists, child rapists, etc.

- Banning lottery tickets or Big Gulps.

- Thinking racists and other horrible people are only that way because the government doesn't spend enough money transitioning them from coal miners to Starbucks baristas, rather than just accepting some people are just inherently vile and won't change.

hasn't it more often been Republicans who have opposed the lottery?  At least, that's how it broke down when NC voted to introduce it several years ago.

[Figueira]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Thank God for that.

Also, I agree on amoralism and moral relativism.

[hopper]

Tax cuts-tax cuts are not the holy grail. Not raising taxes on anybody is sometimes fiscal austerity.

Defense Spending-Thats good Republicans want to spend on national defense but I feel like some of it is wasteful spending. Defense Spending looks to be fine at its current levels.

Immigration Reform-I wish Republicans would just put a bill on the Presidents Desk but talk radio would go nuts if an immigration reform bill made it to the Presidents Desk.

[DC Al Fine]

In general, just the idea that grown adults are too stupid to know what's good for them and should be treated like helpless and ignorant toddlers. Some examples:

- Proposing a year or two in a Norwegian spa resort as "punishment" (oops, I mean "rehabilitation"!) for mass murderers, terrorists, child rapists, etc.

- Banning lottery tickets or Big Gulps.

- Thinking racists and other horrible people are only that way because the government doesn't spend enough money transitioning them from coal miners to Starbucks baristas, rather than just accepting some people are just inherently vile and won't change.

hasn't it more often been Republicans who have opposed the lottery?  At least, that's how it broke down when NC voted to introduce it several years ago.

It's the same on Atlas. The anti-gambling threads are a mix of socons and socialists.

[windjammer]

- Religion
-Abortion

[RI]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Thank God for that.

Yes, we're so much better off with Trumpism and the alt-right being represented but not any form of communitarianism.

[Classic Conservative]

1. Establishment of Constantinople as its own independent country and making it a Christian city.
2. Recognition of Taiwan as the True Heir to China.
3. Recognition of Tibet
4. Recognition of Biblical Israel and Naming it the Jewish State
5. Recognition of Kurdistan
6. Recognition of Bavaria

[Figueira]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Thank God for that.

Yes, we're so much better off with Trumpism and the alt-right being represented but not any form of communitarianism.

I'd rather have neither represented.

[Figueira]

1. Establishment of Constantinople as its own independent country and making it a Christian city.
2. Recognition of Taiwan as the True Heir to China.
3. Recognition of Tibet
4. Recognition of Biblical Israel and Naming it the Jewish State
5. Recognition of Kurdistan
6. Recognition of Bavaria

[RI]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Thank God for that.

Yes, we're so much better off with Trumpism and the alt-right being represented but not any form of communitarianism.

I'd rather have neither represented.

And I'd rather liberalism not be represented.

[Virginiá]

Gun control is the most obvious one. Arbitrarily banning this and that are not viable solutions. I'd like solutions that actually do something besides serve as red meat for the base.

Immigration I am mostly in sync with but I don't like the level of pandering Democrats partake in. We still have laws to enforce and we can't just take in every single person that shows up. There has to be limits, but I think in the pursuit of power some forget that.

I'm not a fan of current trade agreements, and I would like less corporate influence. If that can't happen, then I will not support it.

DC Statehood - Yes, they say they are for it, but I see little movement on it, like, ever. It's perplexing because it could give the party 2 more virtually permanent Senators and I don't understand why they don't pursue this. As a former and probably future resident, I deeply resent the lack of representation.

NSA - Enough domestic spying. Terrorism is not worth the massive erosion of our privacy they silently support.

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Often times I find myself in agreement on the general ideas but not some smaller details.

[Anna Komnene]

- Not paying enough attention to the needs of underrepresented communities, such as Native Americans, victim of domestic violence, and generally people in poverty.

- Not giving high enough priority to protecting the environment and transitioning away from oil and natural gas.

- Being laughable hypocrites on campaign finance reform.

- Generally opposing third parties and any electoral reform ideas that would encourage people to vote for the candidate they like most.

- Supporting economic sanctions as a viable foreign policy tool, and generally being too willing to use military force to solve international disputes.

-Being too attached to bureaucratic solutions.

 - I also agree with xīngkěruì's point on education,  TimTurner's point on trade, BRTD's point on Arab-Israeli Conflict, and Virginia's point on NSA/DC/Guns

[Antonio the Sixth]

My side doesn't really exist as an organized political or ideological structure in the United States, even as a notable third party, so that's a bit frustrating.

Thank God for that.

Yes, we're so much better off with Trumpism and the alt-right being represented but not any form of communitarianism.

I'd rather have neither represented.

Genuine communitarianism - that is, an ideology somewhere between Nathan's, Intell's, and DC or TJ's - is great and I wish there was more of it in US political discourse.

What RI claims to be "communitarianism" is utterly awful and just another flavor of the horror that is the modern American right.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

1. Establishment of Constantinople as its own independent country and making it a Christian city.
2. Recognition of Taiwan as the True Heir to China.
3. Recognition of Tibet
4. Recognition of Biblical Israel and Naming it the Jewish State
5. Recognition of Kurdistan
6. Recognition of Bavaria

Ok, even ignoring the ethnic cleansing in 1 ... Bavaria? ...why?

[politicallefty]

My biggest complaint is that Democrats don't take the work of government seriously enough. As the party that wants to make government work for the people, there is no excuse for how government often performs. The disastrous debut of Obamacare and the backlog with the VA is inexcusable. As the party that believes in government, there is no excuse at all. I have no tolerance for it and neither should anyone else that calls themself a Democrat.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My biggest complaint is that Democrats don't take the work of government seriously enough. As the party that wants to make government work for the people, there is no excuse for how government often performs. The disastrous debut of Obamacare and the backlog with the VA is inexcusable. As the party that believes in government, there is no excuse at all. I have no tolerance for it and neither should anyone else that calls themself a Democrat.

I wouldn't be too harsh on that. Making any complex structure that involves multiple actors with competing interests work effectively is a massive challenge. As Pressman and Wildavsky said, it's amazing that government programs work at all.