Democrats debate the size of a Clinton victory

[Wells]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/democrats-clinton-victory-227253

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As for me, I say go big or go home. It would be fun to watch a landslide result on election night and it would help Democrats in downballot races.

[Gass3268]

The side losing or seeing momentum slip away, don't have these discussions. Good news!

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

[Antonio the Sixth]

We must send a message. We must do everything we can to ensure that no politician will ever again be tempted to follow Drumpf's route. Anything short of a 10-point landslide will keep the danger alive.

[MasterJedi]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

[Gass3268]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

There is no reason to waste time and money in states where you are up by 10 points (except on GOTV, obviously).

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

Playing not to lose in football involves sending your defensive backfield deep to prevent your opponent from completing long passes.  "Prevent defense" prevents winning.   But no coach starts launching big offensive plays to run up the score when victory is in hand.  That's a good way to get picked off and let the other team back into the game.  They keep the ball on the ground or throw high-percentage short passes to continue to gain yards and points while running out the clock.

Clinton has a solid 272 EVs that right now are nearly impossible for Trump to crack.  They should go after AZ, GA, and SC, but not a 50-state blitz at the expense of giving Trump inroads into the 272.  That 272 represents President Clinton, and they should do everything to hold them, while making sure Trump is spending his money on OH, FL, and NC.

[MasterJedi]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

Playing not to lose in football involves sending your defensive backfield deep to prevent your opponent from completing long passes.  "Prevent defense" prevents winning.   But no coach starts launching big offensive plays to run up the score when victory is in hand.  That's a good way to get picked off and let the other team back into the game.  They keep the ball on the ground or throw high-percentage short passes to continue to gain yards and points while running out the clock.

Clinton has a solid 272 EVs that right now are nearly impossible for Trump to crack.  They should go after AZ, GA, and SC, but not a 50-state blitz at the expense of giving Trump inroads into the 272.  That 272 represents President Clinton, and they should do everything to hold them, while making sure Trump is spending his money on OH, FL, and NC.

Your knowledge of football is about as great as your knowledge of politics it seems. There's also just running vanilla running plays to run the clock which can easily be stopped and the other team isn't playing the same way. Trust me, you should know this if you watch football, playing to not lose is bad no matter how it's done.

[Trapsy]

Even Obama isn't over confident which is why we need to go for the jugular. Dems gotta stop being weak. I know for sure if we had a Trump, Republicans would destroy us into oblivion. We gotta campaign like we're down 5.

[dspNY]

They should go on offense in GA, AZ and possibly MO but the guy who said build the trench around the 272 firewall is right. That's why they're still advertising in PA and NH even though they are way ahead in both states

[Trapsy]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

Playing not to lose in football involves sending your defensive backfield deep to prevent your opponent from completing long passes.  "Prevent defense" prevents winning.   But no coach starts launching big offensive plays to run up the score when victory is in hand.  That's a good way to get picked off and let the other team back into the game.  They keep the ball on the ground or throw high-percentage short passes to continue to gain yards and points while running out the clock.

Clinton has a solid 272 EVs that right now are nearly impossible for Trump to crack.  They should go after AZ, GA, and SC, but not a 50-state blitz at the expense of giving Trump inroads into the 272.  That 272 represents President Clinton, and they should do everything to hold them, while making sure Trump is spending his money on OH, FL, and NC.

Why play prevent D in the 3rd quarter ? When we got Warren/Sanders @ DE  & Biden at LB vs a shaky O-line and a weak QB.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

Playing not to lose in football involves sending your defensive backfield deep to prevent your opponent from completing long passes.  "Prevent defense" prevents winning.   But no coach starts launching big offensive plays to run up the score when victory is in hand.  That's a good way to get picked off and let the other team back into the game.  They keep the ball on the ground or throw high-percentage short passes to continue to gain yards and points while running out the clock.

Clinton has a solid 272 EVs that right now are nearly impossible for Trump to crack.  They should go after AZ, GA, and SC, but not a 50-state blitz at the expense of giving Trump inroads into the 272.  That 272 represents President Clinton, and they should do everything to hold them, while making sure Trump is spending his money on OH, FL, and NC.

Why play prevent D in the 3rd quarter ? When we got Warren/Sanders @ DE  & Biden at LB vs a shaky O-line and a weak QB.

Yeah, if you want to keep following the football analogy, you do a safety blitz every time Trump has the ball, and if he doesn't fumble, he'll still get blindsided.

But that doesn't change the fact that Team Clinton should be grinding out the clock on offense.

[Illiniwek]

I want nothing less than a 2012 map, and will be happy with flipping NC and maybe one more. We do need to send a message that trumpism cannot continue in this country. They can pull back and refocus in the last few weeks if they have to; its not like trump's ground game is working magic in the meantime.

[dspNY]

They should dig a trench in PA, CO, MI, and VA, do their best to keep Trump from FL and OH, and consider themselves lucky to get a victory.

When you're ahead by three touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter in a game where everything is at stake, you don't start chucking 40-yard passes.  You keep the ball on the ground and run out the clock.

Playing not to lose in football is a good way to lose the game, very bad analogy.

Playing not to lose in football involves sending your defensive backfield deep to prevent your opponent from completing long passes.  "Prevent defense" prevents winning.   But no coach starts launching big offensive plays to run up the score when victory is in hand.  That's a good way to get picked off and let the other team back into the game.  They keep the ball on the ground or throw high-percentage short passes to continue to gain yards and points while running out the clock.

Clinton has a solid 272 EVs that right now are nearly impossible for Trump to crack.  They should go after AZ, GA, and SC, but not a 50-state blitz at the expense of giving Trump inroads into the 272.  That 272 represents President Clinton, and they should do everything to hold them, while making sure Trump is spending his money on OH, FL, and NC.

Why play prevent D in the 3rd quarter ? When we got Warren/Sanders @ DE  & Biden at LB vs a shaky O-line and a weak QB.

Yeah, if you want to keep following the football analogy, you do a safety blitz every time Trump has the ball, and if he doesn't fumble, he'll still get blindsided.

But that doesn't change the fact that Team Clinton should be grinding out the clock on offense.

If you want a football analogy Team Clinton should blitz up the A-gap against an opponent who has a shaky QB like Trump who is bound to turn the ball over

[Mallow]

Where do downballot races fit into the football analogy? Because if they don't, it's useless.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Where do downballot races fit into the football analogy? Because if they don't, it's useless.

Well, if it's college football, a nice blowout against a hated opponent might make the alumni feel better about the school and give more money.  And it could help in recruiting top players out of high school, and keeping those players from going to your rival.  But the focus should be on winning the game.

[Ronnie]

I'm with Atlanta's mayor, Kasim Reed.  Humiliate him!

[Erc]

Show no mercy.  Go for the full wave.

Build the narrative that Trump is going down to a defeat worse than Dukakis', and stick to it.

[Xing]

For the sake of downballot races, and sending a clear message, I say go big. A huge Hillary win with states like Arizona and Georgia, not to mention many Senate and House seats flipping is worth fighting for. A narrow Hillary win with minimal gains in either chamber wouldn't be such a great outcome, in the long run.

[Yank2133]

Go big.

[Bojack Horseman]

Split the difference. Put money into AZ/GA, but don't go overboard. To contribute to the football analogy, we seriously do not need this election to turn into a repeat of this:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ebHOUIzgT94&t=3m3s

[Erich Maria Remarque]