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Arbitrage1980
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« on: August 18, 2016, 12:21:04 PM »

Why was Missouri so close in 2008?  McCain barely won it by 0.13%, the closest state that year.  But Bush killed it there in 2000 and 2004 and Romney won it by around 11% in 2012.
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Arbitrage1980
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2016, 03:28:02 PM »

Because the election was more Democrat-leaning than any of the other 3 you listed and because Obama drove up black turnout

Yeah I know black turnout in St. Louis was massive.  But black turnout nationwide was actually HIGHER in 2012 (remarkable feat), and Obama lost the state by a big margin.  So it seems like either black turnout in St. Louis declined and/or white turnout increased massively.  Romney did improve on McCain's white vote while doing worse with nonwhites.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2016, 01:04:39 PM »

Yeah, Bush 2000 won Missouri by 3.3%. Dukakis lost it by just 3.5% in 1988.  I think the farmers in that state are more pro-democrats due to the GOP not being on their side on economic issues.
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Arbitrage1980
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 11:10:19 PM »

Several polls also showed McCain competitive in OR and MI. We all know how that turned out in the end....
Remember, McCain withdrew his campaign from Michigan in mid-September, effectively handing the state over.  I remember one poll some time around March that showed him tied with Hillary and losing to Obama here, and another one later that showed him beating them both.  Then Obama took the lead in nearly every Michigan poll after he secured the nomination.

Because McCain was seen as a more moderate, conciliatory conservative, he would have won in any year before 2008 by a solid margin.  But by the time he was nominated, nearly the entire country had come down with severe Bush Derangement Syndrome, and his chances were almost entirely shattered.  He took the lead after the convention, but then the financial crisis destroyed whatever chance he had left.

NO Republican would have won in 2008, given Bush's abysmal approval ratings and the financial crisis.  But McCain did exacerbate the situation by picking Palin as his running mate, one of the single most reckless decisions made by a presidential nominee in history (2nd to McGovern picking Eagleton).  Then, when Lehman went bankrupt and the world was in panic, McCain acted like an unstable old man by suspending his campaign so he can return to DC to work on the problem.  Of course, McCain knows very little about the economy and added no value when he went back to DC.  In contrast, Obama exuded a sense of calm leadership, even temperament, and good judgment.  It of course did not hurt that Obama decisively won all 3 debates against the old mumbling McCain.  If it weren't for those grievous errors, McCain's margin of defeat would have been more like 3-4 points nationally rather than 7.2 points.  And he would have won IN, NC, FL, NE 02, and the GOP would have done better in the congressional races as well.

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