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The Other Castro
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« on: August 04, 2016, 04:54:43 PM »
« edited: August 04, 2016, 04:58:31 PM by Castro »

Clinton - 47%
Trump - 38%

Clinton - 43%
Trump - 34%
Johnson - 10%
Stein - 5%

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/amp/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-jumps-nine-point-lead-over-trump-n623131
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 04:56:38 PM »

The surge is real.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 04:56:55 PM »

In terms of convention bounces, this one is on the smaller side. A near double digit lead is always good news though.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 04:57:21 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 04:58:38 PM »

This is the third or fourth poll this week with Trump sub-40?
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 05:01:15 PM »

Continuing live coverage from RNC headquarters...

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 05:02:01 PM »

(twenty gifs of Hillary Clinton laughing)

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 05:02:22 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2016, 05:02:36 PM »

75% white, 12% African-American, 6% Hispanic, 5% Asian/other

That's a VERY favorable sample for Trump (only 6% Hispanic!) and Clinton still leads by 9
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 05:03:17 PM »

What's striking is that she is making real gains with whites and men in all of these polls...in this poll, she is leading men, 43-42 and down 45-40 with whites. She's up 92-1 with blacks and 51-35 with women.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2016, 05:03:52 PM »

75% white, 12% African-American, 6% Hispanic, 5% Asian/other

That's a VERY favorable sample for Trump (only 6% Hispanic!) and Clinton still leads by 9

Disaster
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2016, 05:17:00 PM »

Other numbers:

Obama 50/42 approval
Clinton 37/53 approval (still struggling with 42% strong disapprove)
Trump 28/61 approval (completely submerged with 50% strong disapprove)
Dems 40/23 approval
GOP 27/51 approval
Pence 23/25 approval with 28% neutral and 24% unsure
Kaine 26/19 approval with 31% neutral and 25% unsure
Cruz 22/53 approval with 30% strong disapprove (which means Trump is more unpopular than Cruz)
Bill Clinton 43/38 approval
Sanders 51/29 approval

Party ID: 33D/27R/40I
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2016, 05:20:08 PM »

Other numbers:

Obama 50/42 approval
Clinton 37/53 approval (still struggling with 42% strong disapprove)
Trump 28/61 approval (completely submerged with 50% strong disapprove)
Dems 40/23 approval
GOP 27/51 approval
Pence 23/25 approval with 28% neutral and 24% unsure
Kaine 26/19 approval with 31% neutral and 25% unsure
Cruz 22/53 approval with 30% strong disapprove (which means Trump is more unpopular than Cruz)
Bill Clinton 43/38 approval
Sanders 51/29 approval

Party ID: 33D/27R/40I

AHAHAHAHA

I bet Ted Cruz has one of those weird grins on his face atm
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 05:21:07 PM »

What's striking is that she is making real gains with whites and men in all of these polls...in this poll, she is leading men, 43-42 and down 45-40 with whites. She's up 92-1 with blacks and 51-35 with women.
Trump will have to do well with more black voters.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 05:22:36 PM »


Wait !
That looks like one of trump's mansions !
LOL.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 05:29:24 PM »

What's striking is that she is making real gains with whites and men in all of these polls...in this poll, she is leading men, 43-42 and down 45-40 with whites. She's up 92-1 with blacks and 51-35 with women.

Trump will have to do well with more black voters.

Close you eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, "trump well have to do well with more black voters" .... now keep repeating that statement, and soon you will return to Kansas.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2016, 05:47:18 PM »

Damn.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 05:50:31 PM »

Republicans are like

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 05:56:31 PM »

Other numbers:

Obama 50/42 approval
Clinton 37/53 approval (still struggling with 42% strong disapprove)
Trump 28/61 approval (completely submerged with 50% strong disapprove)
Dems 40/23 approval
GOP 27/51 approval
Pence 23/25 approval with 28% neutral and 24% unsure
Kaine 26/19 approval with 31% neutral and 25% unsure
Cruz 22/53 approval with 30% strong disapprove (which means Trump is more unpopular than Cruz)
Bill Clinton 43/38 approval
Sanders 51/29 approval

Party ID: 33D/27R/40I

My dude!
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2016, 05:57:32 PM »

Third party numbers feel high to me still.

I keep waiting for the historic crash that usually sets after the RNC/DNC for the others. When is it happening?

If it doesn't shape up, it makes you wonder if either Trump or Hillary will try to boost one or the other to inflict spoiler damage on their opponent, or just continue to ignore them. Ignoring is probably the safest route, however, I can't imagine both parties are happy if Libertarians and Greens somehow pull 5%+ in this election and get their funds/easy ballot access for next time.
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 06:06:22 PM »

Third party numbers feel high to me still.

I keep waiting for the historic crash that usually sets after the RNC/DNC for the others. When is it happening?

If it doesn't shape up, it makes you wonder if either Trump or Hillary will try to boost one or the other to inflict spoiler damage on their opponent, or just continue to ignore them. Ignoring is probably the safest route, however, I can't imagine both parties are happy if Libertarians and Greens somehow pull 5%+ in this election and get their funds/easy ballot access for next time.

I think Stein has a base of at least 2% due to angry Bernouts. Johnson probably has a base of 5% due to angry Bernouts and Never Trumpers.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2016, 06:51:58 PM »

Third party numbers feel high to me still.

I keep waiting for the historic crash that usually sets after the RNC/DNC for the others. When is it happening?

If it doesn't shape up, it makes you wonder if either Trump or Hillary will try to boost one or the other to inflict spoiler damage on their opponent, or just continue to ignore them. Ignoring is probably the safest route, however, I can't imagine both parties are happy if Libertarians and Greens somehow pull 5%+ in this election and get their funds/easy ballot access for next time.

I think Stein has a base of at least 2% due to angry Bernouts. Johnson probably has a base of 5% due to angry Bernouts and Never Trumpers.

My gut says you're right, and I think this is where things could shake out long-term. Guess we will have to wait and see. Just wish that trajectory were better reflected in the weird polls if it's correct.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2016, 12:50:05 AM »

75% white = utter garbage.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2016, 01:52:51 PM »

Something even more amazing about this poll.

Northeast C+14
Midwest C+15
South C+3
West C+15

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2016, 01:56:11 PM »

Something even more amazing about this poll.

Northeast C+14
Midwest C+15
South C+3
West C+15



What the...

What states could be pushing her up? GA, FL, NC Huh That's not nearly enough for South C+3
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