Duterte Harry: The Philippines General Discussion (read the last post)

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So, if anybody is paying attention to the Philippines, you might have noticed that Duterte is, err, definitely following through with his plans. So far the public as a whole approve:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/797447/duterte-becomes-phs-most-trusted-official

But yeah, this is definitely going to be one of the more bizarre governments in the world for the next few years.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What specifically is he doing?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I want to see a Chinese drug trafficker land to see if Duterte follows through with his promise that he'd kill them. If he does, the way China will react would be very interesting considering the Solomon dispute.

[Ban my account ffs!]

FOr one, I don't trust any poll that gives a 91% trust rating in their leader.

I also don't trust any country that would do such a thing barring some kind of invasion or attack of the country in question.

0.02% don't trust him?  COme on...

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Frankly I'm not totally convinced this is illegitimate. Pilipino citizens have been dealing with "corrupt" politicians for so long that they actually are impressed with a candidate going through with his word, no matter how terrible his proposed policies might be.

[Ebsy]

Controversial opinion: Duterte and his vigilante thugs are way worse than the people they are murdering in cold blood.

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One of the few bright parts of Duterte's leadership was that he was relatively open to a peace treaty with the NPA (crazy Maoists), but apparently under the influence of his support base  of the military and police, he will ramp up the war.

He also just issued a pretty funny retort to the Catholic Church, saying that he was going to hell, and that the priests should join him there. Hilarious that the most Catholic country on earth has basically elected an edgy internet atheist (although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

[Santander]

He also just issued a pretty funny retort to the Catholic Church, saying that he was going to hell, and that the priests should join him there. Hilarious that the most Catholic country on earth has basically elected an edgy internet atheist (although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

Wow, I love this guy.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

He also just issued a pretty funny retort to the Catholic Church, saying that he was going to hell, and that the priests should join him there. Hilarious that the most Catholic country on earth has basically elected an edgy internet atheist (although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

The influence of the Catholic Church I think has waned since the early Aquino years. If anything soap operas are more of a religion now.

[Lord Halifax]

(although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

Which are?

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(although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

Which are?

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/12/05/1529163/duterte-identifies-priest-who-molested-him

[Lord Halifax]

(although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

Which are?

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/12/05/1529163/duterte-identifies-priest-who-molested-him

Thanks.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

He also supports gay marriage as part of his anti-Catholic platform.

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He also just issued a pretty funny retort to the Catholic Church, saying that he was going to hell, and that the priests should join him there. Hilarious that the most Catholic country on earth has basically elected an edgy internet atheist (although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

The influence of the Catholic Church I think has waned since the early Aquino years. If anything soap operas are more of a religion now.

The Catholic Church would have more credibility now if it hadn't been so brazenly part of the social and political establishment for so long.

Of course, the exact same is true in Ireland, Latin America, Quebec, Italy, etc, etc.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

He also just issued a pretty funny retort to the Catholic Church, saying that he was going to hell, and that the priests should join him there. Hilarious that the most Catholic country on earth has basically elected an edgy internet atheist (although granted he has very understandable, pesonal reasons to be angry at the Catholic clergy).

The influence of the Catholic Church I think has waned since the early Aquino years. If anything soap operas are more of a religion now.

The Catholic Church would have more credibility now if it hadn't been so brazenly part of the social and political establishment for so long.

Of course, the exact same is true in Ireland, Latin America, Quebec, Italy, etc, etc.

I mean before, you needed to have the approval of the church in order to be successful. Cardinal Sin's opposition to Marcos was part of what brought him down. But as people have turned to more economic despair, the corruption within the church has become more and more evident (together with the press just generally being more free).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

How likely is it Duterte legalizes abortion?

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How likely is it Duterte legalizes abortion?

Hasn't he already legalized post-birth abortion, as long as you just say the words "well he was a pusher"?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

There is no such thing as "post-birth abortion".

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Duterte opposes abortion, or at least claims to; anyway.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

There is no such thing as "post-birth abortion".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

[Frodo]

‘False prophet’: Duterte, the Catholic Church and the fight for the soul of the Philippines

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[Antonio the Sixth]

I hope this works, but I'm not optimistic.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Going by the Catholic Church's track record (like thinking Franco was the greatest), it's safe to say this has more to do with his expansion of birth control, pro-gay marriage stance and staunch anti-Catholicism than the actually terrible things he's doing.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

BRTD, you're aware that the Catholic Church has its fingers in a lot of different pots in different times and places, right? If you want people to recognize that fact when it's bad, it would behoove you to recognize it when it's perhaps not so bad.

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Going by the Catholic Church's track record (like thinking Franco was the greatest), it's safe to say this has more to do with his expansion of birth control, pro-gay marriage stance and staunch anti-Catholicism than the actually terrible things he's doing.

(I'm not the one who reflexively supports the church, and they paid a big price for embedding themselves in the political and social establishment, but...)

...maybe the church is really alarmed by his death squads? The same way they helped topple the proto-fascist Marcos regime? And that his pro-birth control, pro-SSM, and ramblings about how the bishops are all "full of sh*t" is the same trolling he used against the Obama administration?