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« on: July 02, 2016, 11:00:11 AM »

The answer is basically yes. The reason being is that not only are cultural traditions that are not self-selected been on the decline for a long time, but most Millennials already don't care about them in the slightest. So imagine when Millennials become the dominant generation. The next generation will mostly be people who grow up with only a passing familiarity to their "culture" and will probably think what sports teams people support is a bigger impact on their culture than their ethnic heritage, and the idea of ingrained culture will become a very antiquated old-fashioned notion.

And then people's cultural identity will become COMPLETELY self-selected, and everyone will be broken of the chains of culture and have complete freedom to choose their own identity, and it'll be a truly wonderful thing.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 11:30:28 AM »
« Edited: July 02, 2016, 04:03:00 PM by True Federalist »

The only acceptable response to this is LOL.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 11:31:02 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 11:35:59 AM »

People do not have the freedom to completely choose their own identity, because identity will always be bound, ultimately, to whom you are born and where you are born. Some people may escape that more than others, but you can never entirely 'self select your identity', because it is so often determined by circumstances that are totally beyond your control.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 11:58:52 AM »

lol at the idea that millenials don't care about their culture or heritage
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2016, 12:04:01 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2016, 12:09:08 PM by L'exquisite Douleur »

lol at the idea that millenials don't care about their culture or heritage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(contemporary_subculture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 12:08:30 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2016, 12:11:21 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2016, 12:18:28 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »




We are going to start importing so many cultures - maybe even more than ever before.

You realize most people call me a hipster, brtd (a term I begrudge rather than embrace because people wI'll assume that I'm like you).
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2016, 12:15:06 PM »

I finally finished the last season of Girls (which is basically the most Millennial show ever) and I can not imagine any character on that show caring the slightest about their ethnic heritage and traditions. They're the very epitome of "rootless cosmopolitan".
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 12:20:18 PM »

I finally finished the last season of Girls (which is basically the most Millennial show ever) and I can not imagine any character on that show caring the slightest about their ethnic heritage and traditions. They're the very epitome of "rootless cosmopolitan".

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Ratings-Girls-Starting-Get-Pretty-Ugly-70011.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2016, 01:09:38 PM »

I finally finished the last season of Girls (which is basically the most Millennial show ever) and I can not imagine any character on that show caring the slightest about their ethnic heritage and traditions. They're the very epitome of "rootless cosmopolitan".

A big part of the issue seems to be that "culture" doesn't mean what you think it means. Specifically what you are talking about is a very narrow subset of it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2016, 01:46:55 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2016, 01:50:33 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2016, 01:57:51 PM »


uh, not sure what Bernie Sanders has to do with any of this??
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2016, 02:12:27 PM »

does posting dank memes count as culture
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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2016, 02:24:16 PM »

the sun will eventually destroy the earth, so yes
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2016, 02:27:59 PM »

No, because there's no such thing as a culture-less society. What you're describing is the destruction and annihilation of all cultures that aren't "eclectic SWPL-ism", and I verily doubt that that will ever happen.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2016, 03:03:39 PM »

Is there a more cultural traditionalist candidate than Bernie Sanders? He just reeks of a far bygone era of radical old Jewish men reading Socialist newspapers in Yiddish and trying to awkwardly inject themselves into labor disputes. Bernie Sanders is about the most old-fashioned, traditional, throwback candidate out of the whole two-dozen odd of them.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2016, 03:26:02 PM »

make it stop
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2016, 03:46:13 PM »


His supporters were almost exclusively completely assimilated, detached from their heritage and ancestries, white people.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2016, 03:47:21 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2016, 04:16:53 PM »


His supporters were almost exclusively completely assimilated, detached from their heritage and ancestries, white people.

This is a severe misunderstanding of his support...
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2016, 04:21:01 PM »

First I thought BRTD was talking about the collapse of White "ethnic" culture into a general or regional (White) American identity, and I was like "okay that's a interesting discussion", then I found out he was talking about a general collapse of a collective American cultural identity and tradition, and my opinion changed to "that's the stupidest thing I have heard this month".

No BRTD the collective culture is not becoming annihilated, in fact the creation of mass media and standardised education have resulted in it becoming less heterogene. A author archetypes can through mass education become universal among a population, while mass media have allowed the spread of things like Black Friday or St. Patricks day.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2016, 04:42:04 PM »

I would also simply distill Cassius's comment into a question of what self it is exactly that is doing all this self-selection.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2016, 04:44:02 PM »

First I thought BRTD was talking about the collapse of White "ethnic" culture into a general or regional (White) American identity, and I was like "okay that's a interesting discussion", then I found out he was talking about a general collapse of a collective American cultural identity and tradition, and my opinion changed to "that's the stupidest thing I have heard this month".

No BRTD the collective culture is not becoming annihilated, in fact the creation of mass media and standardised education have resulted in it becoming less heterogene. A author archetypes can through mass education become universal among a population, while mass media have allowed the spread of things like Black Friday or St. Patricks day.

That's kind of point. Mass media means people are no longer locked into a culture they are born into. They're free to select and associate with aspects of others they want to and simply choose whatever they like best. Your heritage becomes a non-factor.
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