DNC Platform Finalized

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In before someone else notices that 2 of Bernie's 5 picks are Muslims.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Why was Obama-hating Cornel West selected? He's not even a ing Democrat

[Landslide Lyndon]

Why was Obama-hating Cornel West selected? He's not even a ing Democrat

Killer Mike was unavailable.

[White Trash]

Only one person represents labor. That's pretty sad.

[Hnv1]

I only know Cornel West as writer about post-analytic philosophy and the rest of Rorty's nonsense, and I'm sure his political views are as inconsistent as his philosophical ones.

Happy to see Zogby and anyhow this will be the Dems most progressive platform in a while

[Mallow]

The odds of me voting for Trump in November continue to climb...

Yes, we get it, you're a Democrat who doesn't support many of the Democratic party's positions/politicians. What do you want, a congratulations?

[Santander]

The odds of me voting for Trump in November continue to climb...

Yes, we get it, you're a Democrat who doesn't support many of the Democratic party's positions/politicians. What do you want, a congratulations?

No, I'm saying that I'm highly disappointed in the committee that was selected, especially by Sanders. What do you want? For me to leave the party?

[Mallow]

The odds of me voting for Trump in November continue to climb...

Yes, we get it, you're a Democrat who doesn't support many of the Democratic party's positions/politicians. What do you want, a congratulations?

No, I'm saying that I'm highly disappointed in the committee that was selected, especially by Sanders. What do you want? For me to leave the party?

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

What do you want? For me to leave the party?

go right ahead, bud. no self-respecting non-fascist party wants george wallace fetishists like you.

[IceSpear]

What do you want? For me to leave the party?

go right ahead, bud. no self-respecting non-fascist party wants george wallace fetishists like you.

This is the "party of diversity and inclusiveness" everyone!

Now you see why my state went from solid D to solid R. Ever since Bill Clinton the Democratic Party has become an anti-white hate group that wants to expel anyone who doesn't tow the line and dares to express an independent thought. Your alienation of white working class blue collar coal mining Reagan Democrats will be your undoing in November.

I welcome Santander over to our side.

[Angrie]

To be honest, this is a pretty good platform committee all around. I really like the way that all moderates have basically been purged. There's not even a single Joe Manchin-Ben Nelson blue dog type, unless I am missing someone.

It is majority women as well, no thanks to Bernie's 4/5 male picks!

[publicunofficial]

It is majority women as well, no thanks to Bernie's 4/5 male picks!

Give those stupid males hell, Angry!

Making a sock is against forum rules.

[Angrie]

Making a sock is against forum rules.

I actually advocated for banning this guy a few days ago.

Anyway, can we ban Rick Grimes and "Angrie", please? They're obvious socks.

I am NOT a sock and have no other account.

[Santander]

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

[Holmes]

I just hope this convention doesn't turn into an Israel vs. Palestine battle.

[RaphaelDLG]

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

Or maybe the party starts to emphasize class issues more than southern-alienating identity politics because of sanders' efforts, and becomes less of a corporate party, and white working folk flock back to the Democratic party.

[Mallow]

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

This is the exact spiel I was talking about. Saying it over and over doesn't make it true. You say it's a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it's moving, but it's moving there, and there are plenty of us who are happy that it is doing so. Social issues are extremely important to me and many other Democrats. I suspect you're wrong that Democratic support will wane as social issues become a bigger focus, but I guess only time will tell for sure.

[RaphaelDLG]

Sanders picking Cornell West perfectly encapsulates his hilarious tone-deafness when it comes to appealing to minority voters.

It could also be that they were friends and west is probably the one famous public intellectual that best matches up with his politics and one of a handful of American democratic socialists.

Oh just kidding, I forgot, Bernie is a racist old codger, and he endorsed similar black left-winger Jesse Jackson in the 80s just to appeal to black voters in Vermont and build up his street cred with black folk for an eventual presidential run.

[Gass3268]

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

I don't know if you saw the exit polls for almost all of the primaries/caucuses this year, but Liberals now outnumber Moderates/Conservatives in almost all states. In many places by a lot. Examples of Liberal vs Moderates/Conservatives from some notable primaries:

Florida: 54-46
Indiana: 68-29
Iowa: 68-32
Michigan: 57-43
Mississippi: 51-49
Missouri: 66-34
Nevada: 70-30
New Hampshire: 68-32
North Carolina: 56-44
Ohio: 59-41
Pennsylvania:66-34
Tennessee: 61-32
Texas: 59-41
Virginia: 68-32
Wisconsin: 67-32

Only three examples with exit polling where this wasn't the case:

Arkansas: 50-50
Oklahoma: 45-55
West Virginia 45-55

[IceSpear]

My response was in reference to all your posts over the past month or so, including, but not limited to, the one I quoted. You have been threatening to do exactly that (leave the party/vote Trump) in almost every post you make. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. To express your dissatisfaction with the direction the Democratic Party is going? Because most of us are reasonably happy with the current Democratic platform... so you're not going to get very far with that. Whether you choose to leave the party, or stick with it, that's your prerogative. I'm certainly not in a position to tell you what party to identify with. I'm just saying you've repeated your spiel time and time again, and I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

I don't know if you saw the exit polls for almost all of the primaries/caucuses this year, but Liberals now outnumber Moderates/Conservatives in almost all states. In many places by a lot. Examples of Liberal vs Moderates/Conservatives from some notable primaries:

Florida: 54-46
Indiana: 68-29
Iowa: 68-32
Michigan: 57-43
Mississippi: 51-49
Missouri: 66-34
Nevada: 70-30
New Hampshire: 68-32
North Carolina: 56-44
Ohio: 59-41
Pennsylvania:66-34
Tennessee: 61-32
Texas: 59-41
Virginia: 68-32
Wisconsin: 67-32

Only three examples with exit polling where this wasn't the case:

Arkansas: 50-50
Oklahoma: 45-55
West Virginia 45-55

It's pretty funny Bernie won the only two that have a moderate/conservative majority.

[Blazinator]

Clinton's picks
Paul Booth (Executive assistant to AFSCME President Lee Saunders)
Carol Browner (Former director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy)
Luis Guttierez (Congressman from Illinois 4th)
Neera Tanden (President of the Center for American Progress)
Alicia Reece (Ohio State Rep)
Wendy Sherman (Former top State Department official)

Sanders' picks
Keith Ellison (Congressman from Minnesota 5th)
Bill McKibben (Environmental activist)
Deborah Parker (Native American activist)
Cornel West (Liberal author, racial justice activist, not a fan of Barack Obama)
James Zogby (President of the Arab-American Institute, Pro-Palestinian activist)

DNC's picks
Howard Berman (Former Congressman from California)
Elijah Cummings (Congressman from Maryland 7th)
Barbara Lee (Congresswoman from California 13th)
Bonnie Schaefer (CEO of Claire's and Philanthropist)

That's not a bad group of folks.

I had to look this up on other news sites to make sure it was real.

[Blazinator]

Why was Obama-hating Cornel West selected? He's not even a ing Democrat

Neither is Bernie, so...

[Virginiá]

You mean most of the liberals here are happy with the D platform. Self-identified moderates and conservatives still outnumber liberals in the Democratic Party, and America is a center-right country. Sanders owes just as much to cultural conservatives as he does to liberals and socialists for his success in the primaries, and it is a mistake for the Democratic Party to move in the direction it is moving in because they are painting themselves into a corner.

That likely won't be the case anymore in 10 years or so. Once Millennials/GenZ constitute a solid majority of the voting electorate (by 2024+), then the country will surely vote like it's center-left and many of the issues they take up will certainly not be right-wing.

So the Democratic party moving left right now isn't exactly inappropriate. It's like a car flipping on its turn signal before merging.

Edit: I feel it's worth mentioning that the party platform shouldn't consist mainly of policies that are only desired by a minority of the party. There should be a consensus on a fair amount of the issues (obviously not all, though)

[Gass3268]

Dems adopt $15 minimum wage in platform draft

[Gass3268]

The following has been accepted for the platform:
- Abolition of the death penalty
- Expansion of Social Security
- Raise minimum wage to $15/hour and index it (referring to the current minimum wage of $7.25 an hour as a "starvation wage")
- Updated and modernized version of Glass-Steagall
- Two-state solution of the Israel-Palestinian conflict that guarantees Israel's security with recognized borders and provides the Palestinians with independence, sovereignty, and dignity.

Following has been rejected:
- Opposition to TPP
- Tax on carbon
- National moratorium on fracking

Link

Not everything that I would have wanted, but not an awful start.