Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET)

[Boston Bread]

I noticed that Letcher county had more votes for Sanders than Obama in 2012 general election. lol

[ElectionsGuy]

41% of remaining precincts are from Jefferson and Kenton. Good for Hillary.

[Maxwell]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

If you apply the Vox/Salon etc filter to it, winning a state you really should have won based on common sense is an upset, see the coverage of Sanders winning Indiana.

[IceSpear]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

Nah, it's about as expected. The entirety of WV was coal country. This time it's balanced out by places like Louisville, Lexington, and the Cincinnati suburbs. Both campaigns apparently thought it was a coin flip.

[Frodo]

The vote is tightening again -should we expect a recount?

[ag]

Back to being very close, though, of course, Jefferson is still outstanding.

[ElectionsGuy]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

If you apply the Vox/Salon etc filter to it, winning a state you really should have won based on common sense is an upset, see the coverage of Sanders winning Indiana.

Do you seriously think Sanders should've won Indiana? It was over 10% black and has a decent urban population

[ag]

The margin is 28 votes!

[ag]

Sanders is ahead by 126, but almost all that is left is Jefferson.

[IceSpear]

If the remaining Jefferson precincts are by a fluke Sanders friendly, this could be Missouri 2.0...

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Does anyone have a list of which counties aren't 100% in yet?

[yourelection]

As far as delegate numbers goes this will be a patt. It is all about the bragging rights for winning the state.

[Ronnie]

Sanders is the little engine that (almost) could, lol.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

If you apply the Vox/Salon etc filter to it, winning a state you really should have won based on common sense is an upset, see the coverage of Sanders winning Indiana.

Do you seriously think Sanders should've won Indiana? It was over 10% black and has a decent urban population

That speaks volumes to the validity behind this whole "revolution," that if the African American vote is in double digits, that Bernie shouldn't win the state. Sad!

[ag]

Does anyone have a list of which counties aren't 100% in yet?

Besides Jefferson it is, it seems, mostly Henderson and Warren.

[NOVA Green]

As a Clinton supporter, it annoys/concerns me how much rural and Conservative Democrats have abandoned her in Appalachia. Why would they vote for a socialist anyway? They don't agree with his policies certainly.

I think the actual question should be, why have so many rural and small town Democrats feel that the Democratic Party has abandoned them?

I spent much of my life in small town and rural Oregon and recall vividly how many lifelong Democrats in Southern Oregon, including many union members in Coos and Douglas county, felt that the Democratic president (Clinton) was taking the side of radical environmentalists versus working people.

Needless to say, the Timber industry and local Republican politicians tried to present the argument as jobs versus the environment, rather than talk frankly about the actual economic situation and why the logging and mill jobs were disappearing.

I see many similarities between the decline of the Timber industry in the PacNW and what is happening currently within Coal Country.

And quite frankly, these are parts of the country where the Unions came in after several generations of blood, sweat, and tears and " Ain't Done Nothing If You Ain't Been Called A Red" doesn't actually hold water with the history of the IWW, ILWU, UMWA, etc...

Socialist is a word that the company bosses and operators have been throwing around for a 100 years in many parts of the country to describe anyone that is a Union Man.

[ElectionsGuy]

52% of the remaining precincts are Jefferson County. Almost certain Clinton win.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Am I wrong for thinking this is something of an upset for Clinton - I mean, Sanders won West Virginia by 15 points!

If you apply the Vox/Salon etc filter to it, winning a state you really should have won based on common sense is an upset, see the coverage of Sanders winning Indiana.

Do you seriously think Sanders should've won Indiana? It was over 10% black and has a decent urban population

Yes. I thought Clinton had momentum, and could have just eeeked out a win, but being an open primary in a still very white state, he had the upper hand.

[catographer]

As a Clinton supporter, it annoys/concerns me how much rural and Conservative Democrats have abandoned her in Appalachia. Why would they vote for a socialist anyway? They don't agree with his policies certainly.

I think the actual question should be, why have so many rural and small town Democrats feel that the Democratic Party has abandoned them?

I spent much of my life in small town and rural Oregon and recall vividly how many lifelong Democrats in Southern Oregon, including many union members in Coos and Douglas county, felt that the Democratic president (Clinton) was taking the side of radical environmentalists versus working people.

Needless to say, the Timber industry and local Republican politicians tried to present the argument as jobs versus the environment, rather than talk frankly about the actual economic situation and why the logging and mill jobs were disappearing.

I see many similarities between the decline of the Timber industry in the PacNW and what is happening currently within Coal Country.

And quite frankly, these are parts of the country where the Unions came in after several generations of blood, sweat, and tears and " Ain't Done Nothing If You Ain't Been Called A Red" doesn't actually hold water with the history of the IWW, ILWU, UMWA, etc...

Socialist is a word that the company bosses and operators have been throwing around for a 100 years in many parts of the country to describe anyone that is a Union Man.

Especially with Clinton and Trump as the symbols of what their parties stand for, the Democratic party and the Republican party are increasing the upscale and downscale parties respectively. Democrats are the party of the cosmopolitans, the professional class, the white collar voters. Republicans are the party of the blue collar, non-college educated, poor rural America.

[ag]

As a Clinton supporter, it annoys/concerns me how much rural and Conservative Democrats have abandoned her in Appalachia. Why would they vote for a socialist anyway? They don't agree with his policies certainly.

I think the actual question should be, why have so many rural and small town Democrats feel that the Democratic Party has abandoned them?

I spent much of my life in small town and rural Oregon and recall vividly how many lifelong Democrats in Southern Oregon, including many union members in Coos and Douglas county, felt that the Democratic president (Clinton) was taking the side of radical environmentalists versus working people.

Needless to say, the Timber industry and local Republican politicians tried to present the argument as jobs versus the environment, rather than talk frankly about the actual economic situation and why the logging and mill jobs were disappearing.

I see many similarities between the decline of the Timber industry in the PacNW and what is happening currently within Coal Country.

And quite frankly, these are parts of the country where the Unions came in after several generations of blood, sweat, and tears and " Ain't Done Nothing If You Ain't Been Called A Red" doesn't actually hold water with the history of the IWW, ILWU, UMWA, etc...

Socialist is a word that the company bosses and operators have been throwing around for a 100 years in many parts of the country to describe anyone that is a Union Man.

Especially with Clinton and Trump as the symbols of what their parties stand for, the Democratic party and the Republican party are increasing the upscale and downscale parties respectively. Democrats are the party of the cosmopolitans, the professional class, the white collar voters. Republicans are the party of the blue collar, non-college educated, poor rural America.

I think, it can be formulated more clearly. Democratic Party is, increasingly, the party of diversity. Republican Party is the party of homogeneity.

[ag]

Sanders is over 1,000 votes ahead. Still waiting for Jefferson.

[Crumpets]

Sanders is over 1,000 votes ahead. Still waiting for Jefferson.

Where are you looking? NYT has him up 216 votes.

[Crumpets]

Sanders is over 1,000 votes ahead. Still waiting for Jefferson.

Where are you looking? NYT has him up 216 votes.

Ah. Just changed.

[sportydude]

Where have all those new Bernie votes been coming from?