Opinion of West Virginia

[TDAS04]

Well?

[RFayette]

Massive Freedom State.

This.  The state's got a lot of challenges, but it's pretty damn beautiful and is filled with great people.

[Santander]

Top 5 state.

[Virginiá]

Virginia will never approve of West Virginia

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

My family comes out of Sutton, and I have a lot of WV roots. Massive freedom state.

[Asian Nazi]

Ugly hills full of ignorant hicks.  Hopefully one day they'll die out so the land can get recolonized by better people.

[IceSpear]

Terrible, awful, no good. They showed their true colors in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Its only redeeming feature is that it isn't Oklahoma. At least there's some natural beauty.

[Illiniwek]

Lean horrible state. My exposure to the state is basically entirely WVU, and they are some of the most disgusting college students outside of Columbus, OH. Their treatment of Rich Rodriguez' family when he left for Michigan was appalling. Whenever the win something or lose something the couches go out to burn. They throw batteries, coins, and bottles during games. I don't root against West Virginia and I don't wish ill on the state, but I don't have much affection for them at all.

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Lean horrible state, but I don't really have anything against it, and its scenery is pretty freedom.

EDIT: it is scenery is pretty freedom

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

bottom 5 state

[DINGO Joe]

The state's death rate is literally 14% higher than the next nearest state (Alabama).  They've lapped the field by being old, highest death by accident rate, highest death by drug overdose rate, top two in smoking and diabetes.  Despite having a lower than avg birth rate they are sixth in teen births.  A quarter of mothers smoke while in pregnancy (3X the national avg) and of course they lead the nation in drug babies.  Lowest rate of adults with a college degree.  Only state with fewer people than 1950 (Eastern panhandle has gained 100,000 the rest of the state has lost 250,000).

Has a tax system heavily reliant on severance taxes and extraction industries so not so surprisingly it has a massive unresolved budget deficit.  State Republicans refused to raise the cigarette tax (currently .30 per pack--bottom 5) and instead want to massively increase what teachers and govt workers pay for health care. 

The PSC has allowed the utilities and big coal to structure rates so that if the coal plants can't sell excess generation to out of state customers (due to out of state customers buying cheaper natural gas generation) then in-state ratepayers see a big increase in the rates they pay (basically absorbing fixed costs). 

Their governor's race will be between a coal baron and a guy named Bill Cole. 

It is  pretty state to drive through and Wheeling is interesting.  People seem nice enough, but there is no way around the fact that it's a horrible, horrible, dysfunctional state (sans Eastern Panhandle) only mitigated by the fact that it has a small and declining population.

[DINGO Joe]

Forgot this:



Top state in people collecting disability, probably some fraud, but mostly valid.  That's just hard to convince employers to move into the state with a workforce like this.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Deeply tragic place. Doesn't benefit from being coddled; doesn't benefit from being lambasted.

[Torie]

Oh, I would like to visit the state first before opining. I have never been there, other than when in college traversing the Fruited Plain, and drive through the northern panhandle en route from Columbus to Pittsburg.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Grumps' home state.

[RINO Tom]

Deeply tragic place. Doesn't benefit from being coddled; doesn't benefit from being lambasted.

[Ljube]

Massive Freedom State.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Deeply tragic place. Doesn't benefit from being coddled; doesn't benefit from being lambasted.

Yes. Such sanctimonious attitude doesn't help make things better. If anything, it created quite understandable anger.

[LLR]

Politically? HS

Scenery-wise? FS

I have family from there, but I'm still gonna say lean HS

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Massive Freedom State.

Except the roads. They've managed to make the trip down I-64 through Charleston and the mountains worse than the trip down I-94 through the entire Chicago metro area.

[The Dowager Mod]

Horrible state.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

They showed their true colors in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Serious question: Why do you think Hillary Clinton won the NH Democratic primary in 2008? And don't tell me that Obama was too liberal for the state.

This thread is about West Virginia.

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They showed their true colors in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Serious question: Why do you think Hillary Clinton won the NH Democratic primary in 2008? And don't tell me that Obama was too liberal for the state.

oh my god don't f-cking start

[IceSpear]

They showed their true colors in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Serious question: Why do you think Hillary Clinton won the NH Democratic primary in 2008? And don't tell me that Obama was too liberal for the state.

Probably for the same reason Bernie won Michigan: voters wanted the primary to go on and not have a coronation. NH on paper should've been a comfortable Obama win (like the polls showed), and vice versa for MI.

Had the media not crowned Obama as presumptive nominee (like if Edwards won Iowa, for instance) I bet Obama would've won it. NH loves to be contrarian.

And by the way, if NH is as sexist as you claim, Hillary would've done a lot better than 39% in 2008 and 38% in 2016. Shaheen also would've beaten Sununu in 2002. She also would not have underperformed Obama in 2008. Doris Haddock also would've not gotten crushed in such a massive landslide in 2004.

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Can we all agree to just ignore TNVolunteer's NH-posting? I feel like he's just attention wh-ring at this point.