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« on: April 22, 2016, 06:25:02 PM »

literally. no joke, no distortion.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_ted_cruz_releases_new_transphobic_ad_calling_trump_the_pc_police
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 06:26:32 PM »

He's selling hats that say "Make PC Great Again"
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 06:26:40 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 06:27:38 PM »

Hahahaha.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 06:32:43 PM »

He's selling hats that say "Make PC Great Again"

Gotta give it to the candidates this year....they're fantastic at selling quirky merchandise.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 06:33:13 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.
I mean, I generally agree with this statement if a private business owner so chooses to make that his or her policy, but what is wrong with Trump allowing his private buildings to do the opposite? How is he being "PC?"
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 06:39:23 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

So you want this guy (he was born with a vagina and still has it) using the ladies' room?!?!

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2016, 06:58:24 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2016, 07:01:02 PM by Ronnie »

I was thinking of voting for Cruz to deny Trump delegates in my district (CA-33), but now I don't think I can compromise myself to the extent necessary to do so.  Besides, Kasich seems to be running ahead of him in the cluster of white districts in LA county:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgrE8WmWsAIW4ET.jpg:large
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2016, 07:03:22 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

So you want this guy (he was born with a vagina and still has it) using the ladies' room?!?!


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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2016, 07:46:26 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

So you want this guy (he was born with a vagina and still has it) using the ladies' room?!?!


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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2016, 07:49:56 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

Again, if you get penile cancer and have to have it removed, you'll start going to the ladies' room even though you're (obviously) still a man?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2016, 07:51:26 PM »

I'm always amused by the argument that what you look like is more important than who you are.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2016, 07:51:41 PM »

Lyin' Ted Cruz: a big government liberal RINO who will tell you which bathroom to use.

SAD!
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2016, 07:52:35 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

Again, if you get penile cancer and have to have it removed, you'll start going to the ladies' room even though you're (obviously) still a man?

That wouldn't give you a vagina, so you wouldn't become a woman
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2016, 07:53:57 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

So you want this guy (he was born with a vagina and still has it) using the ladies' room?!?!


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HOW IN THE HELL IS HIM BEING IN THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM OKAY? Like legitimately, women identifying as men and wanting to use the bathroom. Not a big deal. I see NO argument on the contrary. I could barely see a ban on gays in bathrooms (in a creepy messed up awful way), but this... It's so dumb man.
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2016, 07:54:50 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

Again, if you get penile cancer and have to have it removed, you'll start going to the ladies' room even though you're (obviously) still a man?

That wouldn't give you a vagina, so you wouldn't become a woman

You've consistently said that the presence or absence of a penis was your standard. Now you say there are exceptions...
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2016, 08:20:43 PM »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

Again, if you get penile cancer and have to have it removed, you'll start going to the ladies' room even though you're (obviously) still a man?

That wouldn't give you a vagina, so you wouldn't become a woman

You've consistently said that the presence or absence of a penis was your standard. Now you say there are exceptions...

If you have a penis, get to the men's room; if you don't have a penis, use the women's room (or, honestly, whatever room you'd like to, 'cuz men generally don't care if women want to use their facilities). My guess is that the person in the photo from Indy was born with both sets of genitals, which means that "he" should use the men's room ('cuz if you have both, than you have a penis).

I'm always amused by the argument that what you look like is more important than who you are.

Yeah, and I'm always amused by the argument that who you think you are is more important than who you actually are. If you have a penis but believe you're a female, go through the surgery, after which you can use the ladies room, but until then, sorry for the inconvenience of having a penis, and get yourself over to the men's room. Life is full of inconveniences, that's just life...
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2016, 08:32:21 PM »

As somebody who knows transgender people, I believe they should be allowed to use the restroom that they want to. For one thing, why should we discriminate against an entire group of people just because we're scared of a nearly nonexistent threat? There's also the fact that this could just be fixed by unisex bathrooms.
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2016, 08:53:04 PM »

Trump is right on this.  When has this been a problem?  We already have laws against perverts and child molesters.  If a man wants to go into a women's restroom to molest little girls, some law about which bathroom he's allowed to use isn't going to stop him.  The argument Cruz seems to be making is that this law prevents him from using "I was feeling like a woman that day" as a legal defense.  I don't think that's a legal defense as is.  But more to the point, this is something that has never happened to my knowledge, and most trans people just want to use the bathroom where they won't be treated differently.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2016, 08:55:11 PM »

Trump is right on this.  When has this been a problem?  We already have laws against perverts and child molesters.  If a man wants to go into a women's restroom to molest little girls, some law about which bathroom he's allowed to use isn't going to stop him.  The argument Cruz seems to be making is that this law prevents him from using "I was feeling like a woman that day" as a legal defense.  I don't think that's a legal defense as is.  But more to the point, this is something that has never happened to my knowledge, and most trans people just want to use the bathroom where they won't be treated differently.

I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with you completely.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2016, 08:55:15 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2016, 08:58:01 PM by Mallow »

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom that you have the genitals for.

Again, if you get penile cancer and have to have it removed, you'll start going to the ladies' room even though you're (obviously) still a man?

That wouldn't give you a vagina, so you wouldn't become a woman

You've consistently said that the presence or absence of a penis was your standard. Now you say there are exceptions...

If you have a penis, get to the men's room; if you don't have a penis, use the women's room (or, honestly, whatever room you'd like to, 'cuz men generally don't care if women want to use their facilities). My guess is that the person in the photo from Indy was born with both sets of genitals, which means that "he" should use the men's room ('cuz if you have both, than you have a penis).

I'm always amused by the argument that what you look like is more important than who you are.

Yeah, and I'm always amused by the argument that who you think you are is more important than who you actually are. If you have a penis but believe you're a female, go through the surgery, after which you can use the ladies room, but until then, sorry for the inconvenience of having a penis, and get yourself over to the men's room. Life is full of inconveniences, that's just life...

1. You are factually incorrect. I understand that you can't fathom someone looking like that unless they have a penis, but he doesn't. And there are thousands of examples of men like him without penises (and women with penises who "look like" women). Not to mention the countless examples of people who have chromosomes that don't "match" their genitalia, and other such exceptions, that completely neuter your argument.
2. Not everyone can afford gender reassignment surgery, and many choose not to for reasons you have no business discounting.
3. There is exactly zero risk to others from a transgender person using their chosen restroom. If anything, the only real risk is TO the trans person FROM bigots getting physically violent over it (as has been demonstrated countless times in the past). Get over yourself and your social hangups and treat people like the humans they are.
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2016, 08:59:06 PM »

He's correct. trump's actions fall into line with man aspects of social liberalism.
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2016, 09:00:12 PM »

He's correct. trump's actions fall into line with man aspects of human decency.

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2016, 09:00:53 PM »

Trump is right on this.  When has this been a problem?  We already have laws against perverts and child molesters.  If a man wants to go into a women's restroom to molest little girls, some law about which bathroom he's allowed to use isn't going to stop him.  The argument Cruz seems to be making is that this law prevents him from using "I was feeling like a woman that day" as a legal defense.  I don't think that's a legal defense as is.  But more to the point, this is something that has never happened to my knowledge, and most trans people just want to use the bathroom where they won't be treated differently.

Yeah, but here's the thing: If a transgender person looks like a woman, and goes into a stall in the women's bathroom to do his/her business, is there any problem? From what I see, the only people making an issue out of this is in fact the transgender folks. And if anyone were to ask me which bathroom they should use, my answer would be this: if you have a penis, use the men's room, otherwise, use the women's room. Where's the problem?
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2016, 09:02:04 PM »

Why is the mere presence of a penis so disturbing to SillyAmerican? what is his concern exactly? does he think the only way to rape someone is with a penis?
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