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« on: April 20, 2016, 09:35:11 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nee3Ig7zupY&feature=youtu.be

This isn't a very good political ad. Not so-bad-it's-good like Mike Gravel's ads or Audit the Ted, just sort of mediocre.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 10:47:26 PM »

It's hilariously low budget.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2016, 11:06:56 PM »

Sad!
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2016, 11:14:08 PM »

So the libertarian wants the socialist voters.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 11:18:32 PM »

So the libertarian wants the socialist voters.

This outreach effort would make sense if Gary Johnson were a left-wing libertarian.  But because he is about as far-right as possible on economics, I don't think he'll attract anyone beyond some former Ron Paulites who voted for Sanders for whatever reason.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2016, 11:25:41 PM »

pls google me
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 12:02:09 AM »

There probably are a lot of low-information young voters who care less about ideology than they do about being anti-establishment/major party. I guess there are probably also some high-information voters who feel the same.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2016, 12:14:10 AM »

I'd rather not, he's far-right, but Cruz has managed to be more insane.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2016, 12:30:38 AM »

Maybe he's going for extreme socially liberal young voters who care little about economics.  That's my only guess.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2016, 12:36:13 AM »

Johnson is a really good candidate. If only he was more charismatic...

Maybe he's going for extreme socially liberal young voters who care little about economics.  That's my only guess.
This.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2016, 12:55:42 AM »

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 12:56:33 AM »

Johnson is a really good candidate. If only he was more charismatic...

Maybe he's going for extreme socially liberal young voters who care little about economics.  That's my only guess.
This.

The only time voters care little about the economy is when the economy is doing well and the benefits of that accrue broadly - very low unemployment and rising incomes. Basically, Gary Johnson's best shot would be if he were running in an economic climate like 1996 or 2000.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2016, 01:01:53 AM »

What if Austen Petersen got the nomination and Trump got the GOP?
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2016, 04:24:20 AM »

What if Austen Petersen got the nomination and Trump got the GOP?

I imagine that the number of anti-abortion voters that Petersen would attract would be offset by those turned off by his lack of political experience or his lack of name recognition. Not to mention his atheism.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2016, 05:47:20 AM »

Johnson is a really good candidate. If only he was more charismatic...

Maybe he's going for extreme socially liberal young voters who care little about economics.  That's my only guess.
This.
^ he's going for the pro-Marijuana, anti-spying young voters who hate Hillary's foreign policy 
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2016, 07:35:32 AM »

As a fiscal conservative, I really don't see how Gary Johnson lines up with the socialist positions of Bernie Sanders. That said, young voters tend to back a candidate based on whether that candidate appeals to them on an emotional level. Policies and positions don't seem to be considered all that important, so this ad may get younger voters to take a look at Governor Johnson, which would be a good thing. (He did a decent job in New Mexico, and would not be a bad choice for president).
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2016, 07:35:42 AM »

There probably are a lot of low-information young voters who care less about ideology than they do about being anti-establishment/major party. I guess there are probably also some high-information voters who feel the same.
This, but with "a lot" replaced with "some".
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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2016, 10:38:30 AM »

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.
Yes, this is why Trump is doing so well, he has no ideology (unlike Sanders who has been one of the most consistent); he appeals more than any candidate to the angry "none of the above" voter, who doesn't care about anything except being angry.
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2016, 10:56:42 AM »

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.

Nah actually people care deeply about the friscool-aidy clonkservetev sosheally livreal ideologies.
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2016, 02:15:06 PM »

As a fiscal conservative, I really don't see how Gary Johnson lines up with the socialist positions of Bernie Sanders. That said, young voters tend to back a candidate based on whether that candidate appeals to them on an emotional level. Policies and positions don't seem to be considered all that important, so this ad may get younger voters to take a look at Governor Johnson, which would be a good thing. (He did a decent job in New Mexico, and would not be a bad choice for president).

Why are you acting like this is something unique to young voters?
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2016, 03:45:26 PM »

That was a pretty decent ad, actually. That smile at the end was cringe worthy though.
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2016, 06:09:51 PM »

Wow, Gary Johnson is such an awkward person.

I think it's stupid, but I can imagine it might work on some Reddit types.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2016, 08:59:09 PM »

Once again, people on Atlas fail to understand that very few people, especially young people, vote on any sort of grounded ideology.
I understand it, but I don't think that's a majority.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2016, 09:13:28 PM »

As a fiscal conservative, I really don't see how Gary Johnson lines up with the socialist positions of Bernie Sanders. That said, young voters tend to back a candidate based on whether that candidate appeals to them on an emotional level. Policies and positions don't seem to be considered all that important, so this ad may get younger voters to take a look at Governor Johnson, which would be a good thing. (He did a decent job in New Mexico, and would not be a bad choice for president).

If I were young and Sandersesque (which I once was), I'd give an ear to a guy like Johnson, who's the kind of Libertarian who's pro-choice on everything.  That's attractive.  It's not until folks get older and are on their own and having to struggle that they warm up more to some nanny state ideas.  The Sanders voters are probably more fertile ground for Gary Johnson than any other constituency.

Young voters are not as set in their views.  Many young folks are actually very open to libertarian economics; they're not yet fully burdened down by "the bills".  There is an attraction in being able to chart your own course without government interference that young people like in Libertarian economics. 

As an aside, the most exciting young political voice is Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI).  He's a libertarian Republican and a Never Trump guy.  I would not be surprised if he's pretty visible on the campaign trail.  I would not be surprised if he actually went out and endorsed Johnson and spent time trying to convince young voters why free market economics is better than statism.  It would be refreshing to see a campaign where candidates actually try to convince people that they're right, rather than pander.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2016, 10:46:18 PM »

As a fiscal conservative, I really don't see how Gary Johnson lines up with the socialist positions of Bernie Sanders. That said, young voters tend to back a candidate based on whether that candidate appeals to them on an emotional level. Policies and positions don't seem to be considered all that important, so this ad may get younger voters to take a look at Governor Johnson, which would be a good thing. (He did a decent job in New Mexico, and would not be a bad choice for president).

Why are you acting like this is something unique to young voters?

Young voters tend to be a little more naïve when it comes to ideals and politics. It's a tendency, not a universal thing. And it's definitely not unique to young voters, it's just that old farts like me tend to be a bit more cynical, especially where politics is concerned.
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