Bernie wins Clark county NV convention vote

[Minnesota Mike]

If it were Hillary taking away delegates that Bernie rightfully won, the Sandernistas would be shrieking right now...

Bernie didn't take away anything. National delegates aren't determined until the final round of caucuses, which this is not.

You can cling to your technicalities all you want when it's Bernie, but we all know that you would be the Ringleader of the Venom if the tables were turned.

Bernie lost ground in a lot of Iowa caucuses in the 2nd round, and you didn't hear a peep about them. Obama tended to do better in later rounds of caucuses, and all those delegates were seated at the convention.

LOL. The Berniebots are still crying foul.

[Landslide Lyndon]

If it were Hillary taking away delegates that Bernie rightfully won, the Sandernistas would be shrieking right now...

Bernie didn't take away anything. National delegates aren't determined until the final round of caucuses, which this is not.

And then thankfully the DNC credentials committee will take over and will restore a delegation that will reflect the will of the Nevadan people.

Sure, if they want 1968 all over again.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there will be thousands of people rioting for the right of the Sanders campaign to subvert the will of Nevada's voters.

Bernie didn't subvert anything. He got more votes and won. No one stopped Hillary delegates from voting for Hillary.

Are you a real person or a bot programmed to post Sanders campaign talking points?

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If it were Hillary taking away delegates that Bernie rightfully won, the Sandernistas would be shrieking right now...

Bernie didn't take away anything. National delegates aren't determined until the final round of caucuses, which this is not.

And then thankfully the DNC credentials committee will take over and will restore a delegation that will reflect the will of the Nevadan people.

Sure, if they want 1968 all over again.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there will be thousands of people rioting for the right of the Sanders campaign to subvert the will of Nevada's voters.

Bernie didn't subvert anything. He got more votes and won. No one stopped Hillary delegates from voting for Hillary.

Are you a real person or a bot programmed to post Sanders campaign talking points?

Speak for yourself.

[Minnesota Mike]

If it were Hillary taking away delegates that Bernie rightfully won, the Sandernistas would be shrieking right now...

Bernie didn't take away anything. National delegates aren't determined until the final round of caucuses, which this is not.

And then thankfully the DNC credentials committee will take over and will restore a delegation that will reflect the will of the Nevadan people.

Sure, if they want 1968 all over again.

Doubt there are riots over a couple Nevada delegates when Hillary has at minimum a 200 delegate lead (not counting supers) at the convention.

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If it were Hillary taking away delegates that Bernie rightfully won, the Sandernistas would be shrieking right now...

Bernie didn't take away anything. National delegates aren't determined until the final round of caucuses, which this is not.

And then thankfully the DNC credentials committee will take over and will restore a delegation that will reflect the will of the Nevadan people.

Sure, if they want 1968 all over again.

Doubt there are riots over a couple Nevada delegates when Hillary has at minimum a 200 delegate lead (not counting supers) at the convention.

There will be if it made a difference. This same thing happened 8 years ago with Obama gaining at Hillary's expense. All of Obama's delegates were seated.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Anyway, this is apparently pretty academic. According the Nevada Democratic party rules the district delegates won't change, no matter the results of county and CD conventions.
Only the apportionment of at-large delegates can change if more Sanders than Clinton people show up at the state convention.
Worst case scenario for her: a 18/17 split instead of the original 20/15.

[Xing]

Ironically, an 18/17 Clinton split would be closer to reflecting the actual vote total in NV than 20/15. 19/16 would be the best, though.

[Dr. Arch]

Nice

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Anyway, this is apparently pretty academic. According the Nevada Democratic party rules the district delegates won't change, no matter the results of county and CD conventions.
Only the apportionment of at-large delegates can change if more Sanders than Clinton people show up at the state convention.
Worst case scenario for her: a 18/17 split instead of the original 20/15.

District national delegates were clearly based upon the state convention delegates in 2008.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/NV-D.phtml

[Minnesota Mike]

Anyway, this is apparently pretty academic. According the Nevada Democratic party rules the district delegates won't change, no matter the results of county and CD conventions.
Only the apportionment of at-large delegates can change if more Sanders than Clinton people show up at the state convention.
Worst case scenario for her: a 18/17 split instead of the original 20/15.

Well there you have it. Clinton wins Nevada (Cue Bernie bots claiming Nevada was stolen).

[Ebsy]

Abolish caucuses now.

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http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/NV-D

So it does look like Bernie can pick up some district delegates, but it's not set in stone until the 3rd round next month.

[dax00]

Clark County includes all of CD1 and parts of CDs 3 and 4. How exactly the county delegates divide among the 3 CDs greatly influence whether Bernie wins Nevada by 19-16 or 18-17, or (at worst) lose by 18-17.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Anyway, this is apparently pretty academic. According the Nevada Democratic party rules the district delegates won't change, no matter the results of county and CD conventions.
Only the apportionment of at-large delegates can change if more Sanders than Clinton people show up at the state convention.
Worst case scenario for her: a 18/17 split instead of the original 20/15.

Well there you have it. Clinton wins Nevada (Cue Bernie bots claiming Nevada was stolen).

To be fair this whole episode was pretty telling when it comes to Berniebots. They really don't give a shiite about democracy and the will of the people when they don't benefit their candidate.
They really are as bad as TRUMP's supporters.

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Clark County includes all of CD1 and parts of CDs 3 and 4. How exactly the county delegates divide among the 3 CDs greatly influence whether Bernie wins Nevada by 19-16 or 18-17, or (at worst) lose by 18-17.

There's also the other county conventions. Any word from them?

[Ebsy]

Clark County includes all of CD1 and parts of CDs 3 and 4. How exactly the county delegates divide among the 3 CDs greatly influence whether Bernie wins Nevada by 19-16 or 18-17, or (at worst) lose by 18-17.

There's also the other county conventions. Any word from them?

Anticipating more shenanigans to overturn the will of the voters? I guess that is the only path to victory for Sanders.

[Young Conservative]

Why do Clinton supporters criticize caucuses as anti-democratic but not superdelegates seems like more a sore loser thing than a worry for democracy

[Ebsy]

Why do Clinton supporters criticize caucuses as anti-democratic but not superdelegates seems like more a sore loser thing than a worry for democracy

Because the super-delegates aren't going to overturn the majority of pledged delegates.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This system is ridiculous, but the Hillbots' faux outrage is even more so.

[dax00]

Bernie won in the Washoe County Convention, 749-618. Washoe is in CD2.

State delegates: 306 Sanders, 253 Clinton.

[Minnesota Mike]

Bernie won in the Washoe County Convention, 749-618. Washoe is in CD2.

That is almost exactly his February margin. 

[Minnesota Mike]

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/02/sanders-wins-most-delegates-at-clark-county-conven/

Because of the way delegate selection works in Nevada, 23 delegates to the Democratic National Committee are selected on the district level, based proportionally on the Feb. 20 caucus results. Only five pledged party leaders and elected official delegates and seven at-large delegates will be selected proportionally based on party preference of the state convention.

[Fusionmunster]

Ehhh....

It won't matter much. And just like 2008, Nevada will remain a Hillary win on maps. I mean, it might be a (undemocratic) moral victory for some, but no news station or website will seriously cover this anyway so...

On a side note, this has been one of the worst primaries I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing. Hillary, please win on Tuesday and put us all out of our misery.

[dax00]

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/02/sanders-wins-most-delegates-at-clark-county-conven/

Because of the way delegate selection works in Nevada, 23 delegates to the Democratic National Committee are selected on the district level, based proportionally on the Feb. 20 caucus results. Only five pledged party leaders and elected official delegates and seven at-large delegates will be selected proportionally based on party preference of the state convention.

Good to know - rules are rules :/
Anyways, Clinton won Nye County 82-61. There was only room for 53 delegates, so Clinton won 30-23.
Using the number from that article, Sanders will get 1613 state delegates from Clark County, and Clinton will get 1298.

Overall result: Clinton wins Nevada 18-17.

[Joe Republic]

Just got home.  I left early because... ugh, what a mess.  Seven straight hours of standing and sitting around will test anybody's patience.

Both campaigns were enthusiastic, but my god the Bernie supporters are intense.  To the point of borderline terrifying.

At one point a man was running up and down the aisle screaming that two Bernie supporters had been arrested for catching some Hillary operatives apparently reallocating Bernie delegates as Hillary delegates.  His evidence for this came from a YouTube video that he had not himself seen.

Then as I was leaving, along with hundreds of other tired delegates from both sides, a teenager with a megaphone was begging the Bernie supporters to turn around and go back inside, because the remaining Hillary delegates were going to overturn the results and declare a Hillary victory.