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« on: April 02, 2016, 01:16:19 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 01:40:08 PM »

Ron Paul knows all about these shenanigans from the establishment Rs.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 01:53:17 PM »

Ron Paul knows all about these shenanigans from the establishment Rs.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 02:20:32 PM »

If the state party picks 14 at-large delegates, why should Trump have any say?
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 02:31:36 PM »

If the state party picks 14 at-large delegates, why should Trump have any say?
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 03:06:33 PM »

Why is Trump so concerned about delegates? He's entitled to be the nominee because of the popular vote and his threats of mob violence, right?
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 03:26:05 PM »

If the state party picks 14 at-large delegates, why should Trump have any say?

Rules are for losers. Trump's a winner, like Hitler and Stalin.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 04:11:40 PM »

Sadly it appears to be first ballot or bust for TRUMP. Sad

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/tennessee-gop-delegates-donald-trump-221500

Tennessee Republican Party leaders approved a delegate slate on Saturday over the heated objections of Donald Trump’s campaign, which is accusing the state's insiders of supplanting several supporters with anti-Trump forces.

At a tense meeting of the state party's executive committee, police removed pro-Trump protesters, and an already heightened sense of confrontation was exacerbated when Trump’s national director of social media tweeted out the personal cell phone of the state party chairman, Ryan Haynes.

“It was a bad day for the Republican Party in this state,” said Trump supporter Mark Winslow, who said he had been removed from a list of delegates agreed upon by Trump’s state director and Haynes on Wednesday, reclassified as an alternate and then removed altogether.

Trump’s backers maintain Haynes engineered the removal of several Trump supporters from a list of at-large Tennessee delegates and replaced with Republicans likely to support Trump’s rivals at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland -- if the nomination fight takes more than two ballots to resolve. Tennessee's delegates to the convention are bound to the results of the state primary -- which Trump won -- for the first two ballots.
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2016, 04:25:34 PM »

Do we know whether those delegates are Cruz loyalists?
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 04:31:57 PM »

Cleveland is going to be a disaster.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 04:38:42 PM »

In an awkward way, Ron Paul may have helped bring about the downfall of Donald Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2016, 04:48:48 PM »
« Edited: April 02, 2016, 04:52:56 PM by Ronnie »

In an awkward way, Ron Paul may have helped bring about the downfall of Donald Trump.

I would say he helped Cruz more than anything else.  Without Rule 40, the likelihood of a "white knight" parachuting in to "save the day" would be substantially higher.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2016, 05:02:16 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2016, 05:12:09 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

They can do whatever they want. State rules, state delegates. A party primary is not necessarily a democratic process.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2016, 05:19:07 PM »


Hooray for Tennessee!

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

JCL, the Tennessee primary elected the person to whom the Tennessee delegates are bound for the first two ballots. That person is trump. It does not elect actual physical delegates.
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 05:22:34 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

They can do whatever they want. State rules, state delegates. A party primary is not necessarily a democratic process.

Point taken. But Ron Paul should get credit for the Ted Cruz ninja delegate shenanigans.
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 05:24:24 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

They can do whatever they want. State rules, state delegates. A party primary is not necessarily a democratic process.

There is apparently a provision for candidates to audit their pledged delegates in June?  Trump should have an opportunity to throw out anyone he doesn't trust and substitute loyalists in their place.

Really? Do you have details on this?
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2016, 05:33:56 PM »

The actual story is a bit more complex.  Tennessee is one of only a few states that lets the campaigns chose the majority of the delegates.  All of the District level delegates and half of the At-large delegates are chosen by the campaigns.  The other half of the At large delegates are chosen by the the TN GOP.

So 7 of Trump's at large delegates are chosen by the committee.  The committee ended up selecting 4 of the delegates that Trump wanted, while choosing 3 who would support other candidates once they become unbound after the 2nd ballot.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2016, 05:59:12 PM »
« Edited: April 02, 2016, 06:03:42 PM by Erc »

The actual story is a bit more complex.  Tennessee is one of only a few states that lets the campaigns chose the majority of the delegates.  All of the District level delegates and half of the At-large delegates are chosen by the campaigns.  The other half of the At large delegates are chosen by the the TN GOP.

So 7 of Trump's at large delegates are chosen by the committee.  The committee ended up selecting 4 of the delegates that Trump wanted, while choosing 3 who would support other candidates once they become unbound after the 2nd ballot.

Right.  Even if the TN GOP had decided to pick an entirely anti-Trump slate, the majority of delegates in TN are still handpicked Trump loyalists.

The TN GOP rule relevant here is:

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2016, 06:00:24 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

They can do whatever they want. State rules, state delegates. A party primary is not necessarily a democratic process.

There is apparently a provision for candidates to audit their pledged delegates in June?  Trump should have an opportunity to throw out anyone he doesn't trust and substitute loyalists in their place.

Can't that provision be thrown out if a majority of the Rules Committee is anti-trump? I feel as though that's a likelier rule to be overturned than Rule 40.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2016, 06:04:51 PM »

As much as I don't like trump. The TN GOP can't do that. Trump won their state and Trump ppl should get the majority.

They can do whatever they want. State rules, state delegates. A party primary is not necessarily a democratic process.

There is apparently a provision for candidates to audit their pledged delegates in June?  Trump should have an opportunity to throw out anyone he doesn't trust and substitute loyalists in their place.

Can't that provision be thrown out if a majority of the Rules Committee is anti-trump? I feel as though that's a likelier rule to be overturned than Rule 40.

There's no such provision.  It was discussed at one point, but was not enacted.
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2016, 07:01:31 PM »

Cleveland is going to be a disaster.

Not for Democrats, lol.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2016, 07:03:37 PM »


Cleveland is going to be a disaster.

They are used to it there.
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2016, 07:05:25 PM »

I just looked through the list, and there are some really great people going!
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2016, 07:58:35 PM »

I think it's pretty clear that if Trump gets gypped out of the nomination by shenanigans like this (especially if Cruz is the nominee) he will run as a write-in and the GOP will go down in a 1964 style landslide.
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