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Question: Are You Prochoice- Meaning all cases, even for convenience. (Prolife meaning the majority of cases)
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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2016, 02:34:43 PM »

Not a big fan of abortion, but I'm not as pro-life as I used to be.  Definitely for rape, incest, and life of the mother exception, I'm not sure where I'd go from there, however.
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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2016, 09:48:39 AM »

Yes, I support a woman’s right to choose, although I regard adoption as a better alternative.
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« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2016, 10:27:27 AM »

Yup, zero questions in my mind. If anything the US is currently too strict when it comes to abortion.

The US is one of the least strict nations when it comes to abortion.  I think China and North Korea are the only countries with less restrictions.
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« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2016, 10:59:13 AM »

Yup, zero questions in my mind. If anything the US is currently too strict when it comes to abortion.

The US is one of the least strict nations when it comes to abortion.  I think China and North Korea are the only countries with less restrictions.

As I said, the theoretical abortion laws become pretty irrelevant when you have State legislatures trying every conceivable trick to make life impossible for abortion clinics.
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« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2016, 11:59:07 AM »

Yup, zero questions in my mind. If anything the US is currently too strict when it comes to abortion.

The US is one of the least strict nations when it comes to abortion.  I think China and North Korea are the only countries with less restrictions.

China and North Korea have less restrictions (especially in practice, as Tony points out) if the lens of analysis is 'how easy is it to get an abortion?', but vastly more if the lens of analysis is 'how easy is it to freely decide whether or not you want to get an abortion and safely carry out that decision, whatever it is?'. I think this is an important distinction, because morally serious pro-choice people are interested in the latter question, not just the former.

To answer the question, I'm not any more (either by the stupid leading definition in the OP or by the fairer definition of 'erring on the side of laxer abortion laws in general'), but I'm constantly going back and forth on how 'not' I am because I think there are still compelling moral and practical concerns on the pro-choice side.
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« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2016, 05:39:30 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

That said, I'm undecided on the morality of abortion.
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« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2016, 05:49:06 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?
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« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2016, 06:34:57 PM »

Prolife with the exception of life of the mother.
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« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2016, 06:41:54 PM »

Pro-life in the sense that Roe v. Wade should be completely destroyed alongside with every group supporting it. And Planned Parenthood needs to go just being an embarrassing SJW organization.

But I wouldn't actually outlaw abortion. I really just want it to be an issue that a democratic society genuinely gets to debate, argue, and vote on, as opposed to nine-black robed oligarchs.

I do suspect what we get from a democratic process will not be a prohibition.
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« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2016, 06:53:57 PM »

44 to 39 total, YES by my count.

YES: 53.012%
NO: 46.987%

Approx. 3.5% MOE
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« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2016, 07:52:19 PM »

44 to 39 total, YES by my count.

YES: 53.012%
NO: 46.987%

Approx. 3.5% MOE

People who voted in this poll are not a random sample. There's no such thing as a "margin of error".
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« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2016, 12:58:49 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

The main thing is that I don't support requiring parental notification.
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« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2016, 01:09:36 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

The main thing is that I don't support requiring parental notification.

Yes. The parental notification thing is silly.
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« Reply #63 on: April 05, 2016, 07:23:37 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

The main thing is that I don't support requiring parental notification.

Yes. The parental notification thing is silly.

Do many "pro-choice" people support it? That's disturbing.
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« Reply #64 on: April 05, 2016, 07:40:11 PM »

I am pro choice when it comes to incest, rape, or life of the mother (all at any time) as well as during the first 20 weeks in normal circumstances. After the first 20 weeks or so, I am pro life.
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« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2016, 05:42:03 PM »

Yes, I'm actually pro-choice, unlike a lot of "pro-choice" people.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

The main thing is that I don't support requiring parental notification.

Yes. The parental notification thing is silly.

Do many "pro-choice" people support it? That's disturbing.

Politicians, yes. I'm not sure about other people.
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« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2016, 05:49:39 PM »

Honestly curious, what is the reasoning behind parental notification being silly? Teens who become pregnant have probably not been pregnant before, it makes sense they should seek many avenues of advice before making a decision on abortion.
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« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2016, 06:08:57 PM »

Honestly curious, what is the reasoning behind parental notification being silly? Teens who become pregnant have probably not been pregnant before, it makes sense they should seek many avenues of advice before making a decision on abortion.

Advice usually comes through someone's own lens, let's put it this way. A 16-year-old girl gets pregnant, she decides she does not want to have the baby. She goes to a women's health clinic, but before she can have an abortion her parents are contacted. I would assume that in some cases the parents could be religious, anti-abortion, etc. But for whatever reason they say she cannot go through with it and will disown her if she does. What is she supposed to do? Keep the child, a child she is woefully unprepared to take care of, and live her days trying to make ends meet. Or does she have the abortion and be kicked out of her house.

More advice is ALWAYS a good idea, but it should be the child's choice what she does with her body. Even if she doesn't take advice from her parents there are other people that can advise her (health providers, trusted friends, etc.) The point is that by forcibly bringing in parents to (what should be) a girl's autonomous medical decision, you open up many paths for harm to families and especially the young girl.
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« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2016, 04:39:11 PM »

Prolife with the exception of life of the mother.
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« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2016, 04:41:35 PM »

Honestly curious, what is the reasoning behind parental notification being silly? Teens who become pregnant have probably not been pregnant before, it makes sense they should seek many avenues of advice before making a decision on abortion.
Liberal logic is confusing sometimes.  As Carly Fiorina said in one of the GOP debates, why does a teenage girl need her parents' permission to go to a tanning salon but not to get an abortion?
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« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2016, 04:48:15 PM »

Honestly curious, what is the reasoning behind parental notification being silly? Teens who become pregnant have probably not been pregnant before, it makes sense they should seek many avenues of advice before making a decision on abortion.
Liberal logic is confusing sometimes.  As Carly Fiorina said in one of the GOP debates, why does a teenage girl need her parents' permission to go to a tanning salon but not to get an abortion?

because she's infinitely more likely to face parental abuse for getting an abortion than for goïng to a tanning salon…?
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« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2016, 05:03:52 PM »

Honestly curious, what is the reasoning behind parental notification being silly? Teens who become pregnant have probably not been pregnant before, it makes sense they should seek many avenues of advice before making a decision on abortion.
Liberal logic is confusing sometimes.  As Carly Fiorina said in one of the GOP debates, why does a teenage girl need her parents' permission to go to a tanning salon but not to get an abortion?

because she's infinitely more likely to face parental abuse for getting an abortion than for goïng to a tanning salon…?

That, and because getting a tan is not a fundamental human right.
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« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2016, 05:37:14 PM »

Yes, at any time for any reason.
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« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2016, 05:45:37 PM »

44 to 39 total, YES by my count.

YES: 53.012%
NO: 46.987%

Approx. 3.5% MOE

People who voted in this poll are not a random sample. There's no such thing as a "margin of error".

In actuality, it's probably more like a 7% MOE. On Atlasia, there's about a 3.5% margin of difference between the number of the R's/D's/I's.
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« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2016, 05:56:28 PM »

44 to 39 total, YES by my count.

YES: 53.012%
NO: 46.987%

Approx. 3.5% MOE

People who voted in this poll are not a random sample. There's no such thing as a "margin of error".

In actuality, it's probably more like a 7% MOE. On Atlasia, there's about a 3.5% margin of difference between the number of the R's/D's/I's.

That's not the point. There is no underlying "population" from which this poll's voters are a random sample. It's not representative of the forum because people self-select by choosing to click the thread and vote in the poll. If a poll is based on self-selection, then its results mean nothing beyond themselves (see the 1936 Literary Digest poll for proof).
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