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Question: Is Iraq better off now than it was 3 years ago?
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« on: June 05, 2005, 12:16:05 AM »
Another simple question, another simple answer.

Yes
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2005, 06:32:40 PM »
Obviously not - in those days it was an independent nation without a foreign invader running rampant.  Additionally, if it hadn't been for the sanctions in place at the time, it would've been even better off 3 years ago.

It is worth noting that if you are a Shia or a Kurd, it might be slightly better in some ways, but if you are a Sunni, it is much, much worse off.
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 02:08:38 AM »
Quote from: riceowl on June 05, 2005, 12:16:05 AM
Another simple question, another simple answer.

Yes
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 04:07:28 AM »
Yes. Is it better off than it was 5 years ago though? Overall, no.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 04:10:37 AM »
Yes
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 08:37:23 AM »
No, Bush really messed Iraq up.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 10:18:22 AM »
Yes
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 12:36:38 PM »
It could have been fixed but then they killed Saddam.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 06:07:20 PM »
Marginally, I suppose.

Better than pre-invasion? No.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 06:27:39 PM »

Ok, but we were in Iraq three years ago anyway so spare us the knee jerk hack answer.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2008, 01:57:30 AM »
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 29, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
Marginally, I suppose.

Better than pre-invasion? No.

How many free elections were had under Saddam? Sorry, but Iraq, despite some minor violence, is worlds better now and looking forward then it was under their former criminal leader.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2008, 02:10:24 AM »
"Minor" violence? LOL.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 03:22:16 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2008, 08:11:41 AM »
No. It is about the same as it was in 2005 and early-06. Violence is actually begining to creep in as our riflemen head home.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2008, 10:18:41 AM »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 01, 2008, 01:57:30 AM
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 29, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
Marginally, I suppose.

Better than pre-invasion? No.

How many free elections were had under Saddam? Sorry, but Iraq, despite some minor violence, is worlds better now and looking forward then it was under their former criminal leader.

What a disingenuous disregard of the hundreds of thousands Iraqis that died as a result of the invasion. This even puts the figure at over a million.
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2008, 11:02:16 AM »
^^^^^
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2008, 11:17:43 AM »
No -- not by a long stretch.  Things are much worse, in fact, for Iraqi women and Iraqi Christians. 

On the up side, however, things are much better for Dick Cheney's stock portfolio and the CEO's of Halliburton, Blackwater and all the "American Heroes" who received no-bid contracts.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2008, 03:02:51 PM »
Quote from: Angel of Death on March 01, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: StatesRights on March 01, 2008, 01:57:30 AM
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 29, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
Marginally, I suppose.

Better than pre-invasion? No.

How many free elections were had under Saddam? Sorry, but Iraq, despite some minor violence, is worlds better now and looking forward then it was under their former criminal leader.

What a disingenuous disregard of the hundreds of thousands Iraqis that died as a result of the invasion. This even puts the figure at over a million.

Hyper-inflate numbers much? Even then, probably under 40% of those are "innocent".
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2008, 03:07:50 PM »
There was also a bit of minor violence in South Carolina in 1863 as well.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2008, 07:11:06 PM »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 02, 2008, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: Angel of Death on March 01, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: StatesRights on March 01, 2008, 01:57:30 AM
Quote from: Texas4Obama! on February 29, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
Marginally, I suppose.

Better than pre-invasion? No.

How many free elections were had under Saddam? Sorry, but Iraq, despite some minor violence, is worlds better now and looking forward then it was under their former criminal leader.

What a disingenuous disregard of the hundreds of thousands Iraqis that died as a result of the invasion. This even puts the figure at over a million.

Hyper-inflate numbers much? Even then, probably under 40% of those are "innocent".

It's just as ridiculous to say that Iraq is experiencing "minor violence" as it is to say that over a million have died.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2008, 08:41:29 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on February 29, 2008, 06:27:39 PM

Ok, but we were in Iraq three years ago anyway so spare us the knee jerk hack answer.

This poll was created in 2005.
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2008, 10:55:22 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on March 02, 2008, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Keystone Phil on February 29, 2008, 06:27:39 PM

Ok, but we were in Iraq three years ago anyway so spare us the knee jerk hack answer.

This poll was created in 2005.

His response was given in 2008. I figured he was speaking about the present.
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2008, 03:28:47 AM »
My "simple" answer.

No.
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2008, 12:21:33 PM »
What parts are we talking about? Kurdistan, definitely. Southern Iraq, less so, but probably still. The Sunni parts in the middle probably aren't by and large but my sympathy for them is tempered by the fact that they sort of asked for it by oppressing the majority of their country for so long.
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2008, 04:55:32 PM »
Yes, arguable it is both freer and more secure.  Is it as good ast could have been.  No.  Is it better than Saddam's reign, yes.
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