Democratic Freak States Holy Saturday results thread (1st caucuses begin @1pmET)

[Gass3268]

Clallam County 2008: Obama 71.%
Clallam County 2016: Sanders 68.6%

[politicallefty]

Rules are rules, but I don't think low turnout unrepresentative caucuses are the best thing for the party. I like both of our candidates and I don't mind seeing the race go on (especially because California's top-two system can product nasty results if only Republicans have competitive races, such as CA-31 in 2012), but I really don't believe these kind of margins are representative of the broader Democratic electorate.

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

[Gass3268]

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

[dax00]

Well, I don't know how they're dividing up the precincts, because according to NYT, King county only has 17 precincts to report, which is way fewer than in general elections. Usually, my precinct number is 36-1813, but if it's by zip code, then it's 91899.

By precinct, they mean caucus location. I've been scouring the net for precinct info - no luck.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Whitman County goes 80-20 Sanders

[Frodo]

Anything from Hawaii yet?

[RI]

So, I'm just tuning in. Does anybody have precinct-by-precinct data? I want to see if Clinton hit viability in mine, because if not, my absentee vote went to Sanders.

Which precinct?

Well, I don't know how they're dividing up the precincts, because according to NYT, King county only has 17 precincts to report, which is way fewer than in general elections. Usually, my precinct number is 36-1813, but if it's by zip code, then it's 91899.

I don't have that precinct, but my count of the 36th LD has Sanders at ~76%.

[Crumpets]

Well, I don't know how they're dividing up the precincts, because according to NYT, King county only has 17 precincts to report, which is way fewer than in general elections. Usually, my precinct number is 36-1813, but if it's by zip code, then it's 91899.

By precinct, they mean caucus location. I've been scouring the net for precinct info - no luck.

If that's the case, then it probably hasn't reported yet. Only 4 are in for King County. My "location" was Catherine Blaine Middle School, unless absentee counts as its own thing.

[Mr. Morden]

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

Huh?  Caucuses have existed in Washington for many years, it's just that there's also a primary.  The Republicans have sometimes split the delegate allocation between caucuses and primary, but I don't think the primary has been used for delegate allocation on the Dem. side for a while.

[Gass3268]

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

Huh?  Caucuses have existed in Washington for many years, it's just that there's also a primary.  The Republicans have sometimes split the delegate allocation between caucuses and primary, but I don't think the primary has been used for delegate allocation on the Dem. side for a while.

It's what I heard from CNN And MSNBC.

[Flake]

Whitman County 2008: 78% Obama
Whitman County 2016: 80% Obama

Walla Walla County 2008: 72% Obama
Walla Walla County 2016: 71% Sanders

Benton County 2008: 60% Obama
Benton County 2016: 78% Sanders

[cinyc]

Such a reverse sweep isn't happening and you know it. NY, PA, CA, MD, DE and NJ aren't 90%+ White so Bernie won't win there. I don't give a sh*t about Clinton losing Alaska, Montana or Idaho lol.

Alaska is only 62% non Hispanic white. Bernie is probably winning the Native population big time.

Sanders has never had a problem winning Native American voters in the primaries.

I haven't looked at precinct data, but she won Apache and Navajo counties like huge margins in Arizona, both heavily Native American.

Yeah, Clinton might do slightly better with Native Americans than Whites, but it's not like the differences she has with blacks and Hispanics.  Navajo County was more or less in line with the rest of Arizona.  Clinton performed about 10 points better in Apache County than the rest of the state.  In Oklahoma, Clinton barely won Osage County, Oklahoma, 48-46 in a state she lost 52-42.  On the other hand, Sanders swept the Indian Township Voting District in Maine and won Thurston County, Nebraska.  Plus, Clinton actually slightly underperformed in Robeson County, North Carolina, which has no reservation but a lot of Native Americans (Sanders underperformed a bit there, too, though).  

Native Americans probably vote at most 10 points more for Clinton than the rest of the state, and usually less.

Edited to add:  Looking closer at Idaho, Clinton barely won Lewis County there in a state she lost 78-21.  But Sanders won the other counties in Northern Idaho with Indian Reservations, including Benwah.  Lewis is 100% on the Nez Pierce Reservation, though, while the other counties aren't.

[Mr. Morden]

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

Huh?  Caucuses have existed in Washington for many years, it's just that there's also a primary.  The Republicans have sometimes split the delegate allocation between caucuses and primary, but I don't think the primary has been used for delegate allocation on the Dem. side for a while.

It's what I heard from CNN And MSNBC.

Well they're wrong. 

Just look up the primary calendar from years past.  The Washington caucuses have been around for a long time.  Though, like I said, there's also a primary that, for the Democratic side, usually isn't used for any delegate allocation and is purely a "beauty contest".

[LLR]

Anything from Hawaii yet?

[The Other Castro]

I don't think we'll hear from Hawaii for a few more hours.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Ferry County Sanders 78-22

[Flake]

Ferry County 2008: 56% Obama

Ferry County Sanders 78-22

[Frodo]

How well did Hillary do in the more Asian precincts of Washington state, like Seattle's Rainier Valley for instance?  

[Mr. Morden]

https://twitter.com/Maui_DetroitGal/status/713869312939831296

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Sanders: “We knew we would do poorly in the Deep South. That’s a conservative part of the country.”

Says the moron who won Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho.
And then wonders why teh niggas won't support him.

The deep south is conservative in ways that Utah is not.

http://www.npr.org/2015/12/10/459100751/utah-reduced-chronic-homelessness-by-91-percent-heres-how

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Sanders: “We knew we would do poorly in the Deep South. That’s a conservative part of the country.”

Says the moron who won Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho.
And then wonders why teh niggas won't support him.

Says the moron who won Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho.

Says the moron who won

moron

Hahahahahahaha

[Mr. Morden]

Hawaii ballot:



Again, with the alphabetical order.  Seems like virtually every caucus state uses alphabetical order.

[cwt]

Again, with the alphabetical order.  Seems like virtually every caucus state uses alphabetical order.

My state had no ballot. You just get a sign-in sheet and you have to write in your candidate's name.

[ElectionsGuy]

King County down to 64/36 Sanders, could potentially swing the state below 70% for Sanders if the rest of the votes continue that way.

[Gass3268]

Hawaii ballot:



Again, with the alphabetical order.  Seems like virtually every caucus state uses alphabetical order.

RIP Zombie O'Malley