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« on: March 26, 2016, 12:13:14 AM »

Colin Powell somehow wins the Republican nomination, and chooses Senator Phil Gramm as his VP. How does the map look? Powell runs as a economic conservative/social moderate.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 05:16:44 AM »

No Perot?
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 08:07:37 AM »

Clinton keeps it close, but narrowly loses to Powell.

Powell/Graham: 272 (49%)
Clinton/Gore: 266 (49%)
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 04:56:41 PM »


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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 05:04:12 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2016, 05:11:25 PM by P123 »

My prediction
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2016, 01:50:07 PM »

Clinton keeps it close, but narrowly loses to Powell.

Powell/Graham: 272 (49%)
Clinton/Gore: 266 (49%)

I agree with this.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2016, 03:46:05 PM »

No way Clinton loses. Powell was popular, but Clinton was leading a huge economic recovery and had decent approval ratings. Plus, there is no way Dixie goes for a Black man, no matter how Republican he is.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2016, 05:33:35 PM »

The polls suggested Powell's victory but I'd think they change if he were the actual nominee. Slick Willie was a natural campaigner who ran on a the 90s boom; Powell was a trooper with no political experience.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »
« Edited: April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM by Southern Gothic »

The polls suggested Powell's victory but I'd think they change if he were the actual nominee. Slick Willie was a natural campaigner who ran on a the 90s boom; Powell was a trooper with no political experience.

Bingo. Powell is one of those candidates that looks great on paper and in polling, but in actuality wouldn't have that great of a campaign. Powell really does not have that much appeal to any of the Republican demographics and in fact drives a few from the party. 1996 remains unchanged except the South folds for Clinton. The map would look something like this in my opinion:




Bill Clinton/ Al Gore 409 EVs (54.2%)
Colin Powell/ George Allen 129 EVs (43.1%)
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2016, 08:40:19 PM »

The polls suggested Powell's victory but I'd think they change if he were the actual nominee. Slick Willie was a natural campaigner who ran on a the 90s boom; Powell was a trooper with no political experience.
I've always had this picture of a general leading crowds somewhat like troops. Is that insane imagination, or is it possible someone like Powell would be able to capture a "crowd style" campaign? It's useful for people to use their skills in how they campaign, and if you recognize he is a great general and a strategic thinker, he might realize this.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2016, 09:08:06 PM »

It certainly is possible but Powell isn't that type of person; his positions aren't 'out there' enough to bring in angry, disaffected people (Sanders, Paul Sr.), or is personally charasmatic (Mr. Clinton, Obama), or both (Trump). Powell's image was that of a good, respectable soldier who follows orders, esp. after being Bush' SoS.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2016, 09:16:01 PM »

It certainly is possible but Powell isn't that type of person; his positions aren't 'out there' enough to bring in angry, disaffected people (Sanders, Paul Sr.), or is personally charasmatic (Mr. Clinton, Obama), or both (Trump). Powell's image was that of a good, respectable soldier who follows orders, esp. after being Bush' SoS.
Image, yes. He was an outsider and a new type of Republican candidate(race and position). I could see him possessing charisma as well. If Perot does not run, there will be the Perot voters, anti-DC voters, independents, and moderates Powell could win over. I'm talking of a non-traditional GOTV system, where Powell personally could lead supporters to the polls.
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