Democratic Ides of March Tuesday results thread (first polls close at 7pm ET)

[Gass3268]

Clinton is really not getting the margin she needs in Cook County and there is a ton of the vote in there.

[RightBehind]

I'm optimistic that while Sanders is all but going away, his message isn't, and that his candidacy shows how fed up people are.

The corporate media sabotaged this for him.

[Zanas]

Meanwhile, MO is at 50-48 for Clinton (!?) and IL at 53-46 for Clinton. Sanders doing better in MO than IL ? What ? Of course it's still early, especially in Missouri.

[IceSpear]

Sorry I disappeared for a while there, I had to go drown my sorrows in about six Coronas.

I had quite a bit of Absolut after Michigan.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Sanders gaining in most states and now is ahead in MO.

[Zanas]

So now Sanders is within 54 votes of CLinton in MO. Someone care to explain ? I know MO isn't your typical Southern state, but I still expected it to split 2 to 1 for Clinton.

[Fusionmunster]

So now Sanders is within 54 votes of CLinton in MO. Someone care to explain ? I know MO isn't your typical Southern state, but I still expected it to split 2 to 1 for Clinton.

St. Louis and Kansas City are out so not sure yet.

[yourelection]

IL and MO long from over and long from being a win for Clinton

[YPestis25]

So now Sanders is within 54 votes of CLinton in MO. Someone care to explain ? I know MO isn't your typical Southern state, but I still expected it to split 2 to 1 for Clinton.

Outside of extreme southeast Missouri, it's a fairly midwestern/plainsy type of state. That said, those numbers probably won't hold, especially with most of St. Louis and Kansas City still out.

[Hammy]

IL and MO long from over and long from being a win for Clinton

I think on the Dem side, Missouri is probably more Midwestern than Southern, and Sanders tends to do better in the Midwest (and Clinton only got 48% there in 2008.) She did worse in Illinois because it was Obama's home state.

[Gass3268]

69% of the vote in Cook County, Clinton is only up by 8%.

[RaphaelDLG]

1) Hilldog is really a way, way worse option than Bernie

2) At the same time, if Bernie supporters seriously think the correct response is to vote for Trump or not vote, they are ing fools.  Clinton is competent, intelligent, way more liberal than the Repubs, and will take care of Supreme Court business.

3) In general people need to be less childish/impatient and recognize that actual change happens with consistent dialogue, protest, and voting in ALL elections, whether midterm, primary, general, local, federal over many, many years, not just freaking out over one dude in one primary.

I agree with you so much on #3. If Bernie people directed even a fraction of their effort for Bernie that they did on Congress, they could make some major positive change. But it's hard for a lot of people to understand there's more to government than a president. I blame our education system.

Strongly, strongly agree with your point on the importance of better civic education and its inverse link with our lackluster, anemic democracy.  As a educator/researcher/writer, improving civic education is basically the cause of my life.

Thanks for your often very intelligent, often very fair posts, and thanks for voting!  

Assuming I move to state that's not R+12 this fall, I will avoid the urge to indulge myself by voting for Stein and will diligently vote for your candidate and encourage my friends to also do so.

[Fusionmunster]

69% of the vote in Cook County, Clinton is only up by 8%.

Thats where most of the dem vote is though.

[psychprofessor]

I think Clinton can take Missouri with St. Louis and KC.

She's holding steady in Illinois.

This can be a sweep tonight.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

1) Hilldog is really a way, way worse option than Bernie

2) At the same time, if Bernie supporters seriously think the correct response is to vote for Trump or not vote, they are ing fools.  Clinton is competent, intelligent, way more liberal than the Repubs, and will take care of Supreme Court business.

3) In general people need to be less childish/impatient and recognize that actual change happens with consistent dialogue, protest, and voting in ALL elections, whether midterm, primary, general, local, federal over many, many years, not just freaking out over one dude in one primary.

I agree with you so much on #3. If Bernie people directed even a fraction of their effort for Bernie that they did on Congress, they could make some major positive change. But it's hard for a lot of people to understand there's more to government than a president. I blame our education system.

Err, I don't think only focusing on Congress would solve the problem. People need to become involved in local, state, and national politics in order to really affect real legislative change. The problem is that the way work and wages are nowadays, it isn't really feasible for most Americans to be focused on having a good life and providing for your family and be involved deep enough in politics to understand the issues at the same time.

[yourelection]

Is Bernie speeking at the moment?

[IceSpear]

1) Hilldog is really a way, way worse option than Bernie

2) At the same time, if Bernie supporters seriously think the correct response is to vote for Trump or not vote, they are ing fools.  Clinton is competent, intelligent, way more liberal than the Repubs, and will take care of Supreme Court business.

3) In general people need to be less childish/impatient and recognize that actual change happens with consistent dialogue, protest, and voting in ALL elections, whether midterm, primary, general, local, federal over many, many years, not just freaking out over one dude in one primary.

I agree with you so much on #3. If Bernie people directed even a fraction of their effort for Bernie that they did on Congress, they could make some major positive change. But it's hard for a lot of people to understand there's more to government than a president. I blame our education system.

Err, I don't think only focusing on Congress would solve the problem. People need to become involved in local, state, and national politics in order to really affect real legislative change. The problem is that the way work and wages are nowadays, it isn't really feasible for most Americans to be focused on having a good life and providing for your family and be involved deep enough in politics to understand the issues at the same time.

Congress was just an example. I mean government in general. If they spent all that time, energy, money, and passion on other areas of government rather than tilting at windmills against Hillary, the left would be much better off as a whole.

[KingSweden]

1) Hilldog is really a way, way worse option than Bernie

2) At the same time, if Bernie supporters seriously think the correct response is to vote for Trump or not vote, they are ing fools.  Clinton is competent, intelligent, way more liberal than the Repubs, and will take care of Supreme Court business.

3) In general people need to be less childish/impatient and recognize that actual change happens with consistent dialogue, protest, and voting in ALL elections, whether midterm, primary, general, local, federal over many, many years, not just freaking out over one dude in one primary.

On point with #3

[Nyvin]

Won't Clinton win the St Louis area of Illinois?

[ProudModerate2]

I'm looking for a pat-on-the-back. LOL.
I said this yesterday .....

I would say that Sander's best chance to take a state or two, will be in Illinois and Missouri.

(PS: It really wasn't a difficult prediction to make.)

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Looks like Sanders could win MO! It will start getting closer in IL as well.

[Gass3268]

69% of the vote in Cook County, Clinton is only up by 8%.

Thats where most of the dem vote is though.

Yes, but Sanders is doing well in the collar counties and downstate. Still a while to go.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Is Bernie speeking at the moment?

Yes the corporate media is against him obviously.

[Dr. Arch]

Sandernistas get aggressive when they lose, my FB list is FOAMING at the mouth right now over Sanders losses so far

I made a modest post on a Sanders group page about conceding defeat due to delegate math, and I was responded with all types of aggression ranging from passive-aggressive to high-school rejection antics.

[KingSweden]

Interesting that Clinton has a higher percentage in Ohio than NC