How long until the Establishment is mathematically locked out?
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Phony Moderate
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« on: March 14, 2016, 05:25:42 AM »
TRUMP current delegates - 464
Cruz current delegates - 372

Total - 836, or 401 off a majority
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2016, 05:27:55 AM »
Give it a couple weeks. Maybe after March 26.
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Sir Mohamed
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2016, 06:34:13 AM »
De facto it is locked out. Only the Trumpster and Cruz have serious chances anymore.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2016, 10:07:54 AM »
Both nominations (Democrats and GOP) could easily go to June. It's not certain, of course, but it a possibility.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2016, 12:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Phony Moderate on March 14, 2016, 05:25:42 AM
TRUMP current delegates - 464
Cruz current delegates - 372

Total - 836, or 401 off a majority



Trump is establishment. The conservatives left on the GOP are Cruz and Rubio.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2016, 01:27:52 PM »
Quote from: GeologistSaidYes on March 14, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Phony Moderate on March 14, 2016, 05:25:42 AM
TRUMP current delegates - 464
Cruz current delegates - 372

Total - 836, or 401 off a majority



Trump is establishment. The conservatives left on the GOP are Cruz and Rubio.

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2016, 01:33:20 PM »
Quote from: GeologistSaidYes on March 14, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Phony Moderate on March 14, 2016, 05:25:42 AM
TRUMP current delegates - 464
Cruz current delegates - 372

Total - 836, or 401 off a majority



Trump is establishment. The conservatives left on the GOP are Cruz and Rubio.

Once again, establishment does not necessarily mean moderate, and conservative does not necessarily mean anti-establishment. Rubio is more conservative than Trump in some areas, yet he is also more establishment. At the same time, Kasich is more moderate than Trump in some areas yet Kasich is also more establishment. Even Cruz could be reasonably argued as more establishment than Trump. Political ideology is distinct from how ingrained one is in a party.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2016, 01:58:54 PM »
This sort of forgets that the large majority of delegates will not be chosen by the campaigns. A large number of trump or Cruz delegates could be voting for them against their will and defect to the establishment at the first opportunity.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 02:54:16 PM »
Not until Trump gets a majority.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 03:10:14 PM »
Quote from: Castro on March 14, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: GeologistSaidYes on March 14, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Phony Moderate on March 14, 2016, 05:25:42 AM
TRUMP current delegates - 464
Cruz current delegates - 372

Total - 836, or 401 off a majority



Trump is establishment. The conservatives left on the GOP are Cruz and Rubio.

Once again, establishment does not necessarily mean moderate, and conservative does not necessarily mean anti-establishment. Rubio is more conservative than Trump in some areas, yet he is also more establishment. At the same time, Kasich is more moderate than Trump in some areas yet Kasich is also more establishment. Even Cruz could be reasonably argued as more establishment than Trump. Political ideology is distinct from how ingrained one is in a party.

Trump has a well known history of supporting anti Tea-Party and anti-conservative  candidates and causes. He supported gang of 8 (as did Rubio) and supports planned parenthood (something grassroots conservatives and pro-life folks despise). So here's the establishment-grassroots scale

Establishment Trump-Kasich-Rubio-Cruz Grassroots

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