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IceSpear
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« on: March 07, 2016, 11:18:31 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 11:26:16 PM »
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Romney in 2008 is basically identical to his performance in 2012.  He loses the popular vote 51-48. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 11:30:02 PM »
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Like Romney, McCain pretty much repeats his 2008 performance except for it's not a repeat since he wouldn't have already run.  Obama would win the election by a point.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 12:43:19 AM »
« Edited: March 08, 2016, 12:46:02 AM by IceSpear »
I actually think Obama would've won even bigger in 08 against Romney. An out of touch millionaire running right after the economic collapse would've been pretty bad optics. Obama picks up MO/MT and a point or two more in the popular vote.

I think McCain would've performed better than Romney in 2012. The public wasn't as war weary by then, which is one of McCain's biggest weaknesses. He's also a lot more "likable and trustworthy" than Romney. On top of that, McCain favored immigration reform and wouldn't have had Romney's self deportation problem. Obama loses FL (maybe OH as well) and a point in the popular vote.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 12:48:37 AM »
I'm not sure McCain does better than Romney in 2012.  You make a good point about Romney though and he would've been more hesitant to blame Bush for the housing collapse.  On the other hand Romney was much better at directly criticizing Obama's experience or at least would've been better than McCain in 2008. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 06:05:05 PM »

300: McCain/Kasich(50.5%)
236: Obama/Biden(47.0%)

Others: 2.5%
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 07:57:04 PM »
« Edited: March 09, 2016, 08:04:40 PM by L.D. Smith »
2008



Obama- 373 EV, 55.6% PV
Romney- 165 EV, 44.2% PV

2012



Obama- 347 EV, 51.3%
McCain -191 EV, 47.8%
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 08:49:17 AM »

Obama/Biden: 394 (55.0%)
Romney/Pawlenty: 144 (43.6%)


McCain/Rubio: 290 (49.9%)
Obama/Biden: 248 (48.8%)
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 08:52:16 AM »
2008 is pretty much the same

Barack Obama - 365 (52.9%)
Mitt Romney - 173 (45.7%)

McCain does better in 2012

Barack Obama - 285 (50.4%)
John McCain - 253 (47.9%)
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 08:07:52 PM »


Barack Obama/Evan Bayh: 399 Electoral Votes 54.6%
Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty: 139 Electoral Votes 44.9%





John McCain/Marco Rubio: 276 Electoral Votes 49.5%
Barack Obama/Evan Bayh: 262 Electoral Votes 49.4%
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 08:43:34 PM »
Would've done worse in both cases.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 10:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on March 11, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Would've done worse in both cases.

Interesting. The theory of Romney doing worse than McCain in 08 seems pretty clear cut, but what makes you think McCain would do worse than Romney in 12?
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