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« on: March 06, 2016, 09:59:31 AM »







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President Obama's approval rating in Michigan stands at 50 percent among registered voters.

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The NBC/WSJ/Marist poll was conducted March 1-3 among 2,229 registered voters (which has a margin of error of plus-minus 2.1 percentage points), 546 likely Democratic primary voters (plus-minus 4.2 percentage points) and 482 likely Republican primary voters (plus-minus 4.5 percentage points).

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-hold-big-leads-michigan-poll-n532576
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2016, 10:21:46 AM »

B-B-BUT WORKING CLASS WHITE BLUE COLLAR REAGAN DEMOCRATS WILL PROPEL TRUMP TO VICTORY IN MI!! HE DOESN'T NEED FL!!!11!

Trump is solidly ahead in FL. It's VA where he seems to be in trouble.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2016, 10:37:49 AM »

BUT TRUMP DOESNT NEED FLORID. HES GOING TO FLIP PENNSYLVANIA AND MICHIGAN TO MAKE UP FOR IT
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2016, 12:43:50 PM »

"LOLOL CANT WAIT UNTIL PRESIDENT TRUMP ROLLS OVER FL PA OH AND EVEN MI!"

You scrubs lol. Enjoy barely even taking North Carolina.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2016, 12:53:28 PM »

Trump is gonna the way of Romney
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2016, 12:59:30 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2016, 03:31:38 PM by pbrower2a »


Worse -- far worse! Take a good look at 2012. Mitt Romney came close to defeating an above-average incumbent President. I'm tempted to believe that he wins more electoral votes than Trump should he run Third Party or Independent.

I think Romney would have a chance in this election.

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With Michigan this far out of contention for Trump, even Indiana will not be safe for him.

Obama approval is at 50% in Michigan.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2016, 01:02:41 PM »

Democrats are winning in an early polls in Michigan!? Looks like Michigan will be a D+30 state in the GE.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2016, 02:50:56 PM »

Strongest D performances ever in Michigan:

Johnson 66, Goldwater 33 -- 1964
Obama 57, McCain 41 -- 2008
FDR 56, Landon 39 -- 1936
Obama 54, Romney 45 -- 2012
Clinton 52, Dole 38, Perot 9 -- 1996
FDR 52, Hoover 44 -- 1932
Kennedy 51, Nixon 49 -- 1960
FDR 49.56, Willkie 49.85 -- 1944

I don't quite know where to put Clinton 43, Bush 36, Perot 19 in 1992.

Barring a boring landslide in November, 57-41 for a Democrat is the max-out for any Democrat in 2016.

PPP is polling Ohio this weekend, and this poll suggests that the only Republican who has a chance in November in Ohio is John Kasich.

Michigan is about D+5 now, about like Connecticut and Maryland.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 04:37:34 PM »

If MI is this strong for Clinton,  then Pa should be clearly good fpr Clinton as well. Dems are doing well in CO & MI, two states needed.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 05:41:01 PM »

The polls for Pennsylvania are old -- from December, when Hillary Clinton was reeling in all polls due to the run-up to the investigation of the private server and Benghazi.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 07:41:37 PM »

I know, the Pennsylvania senate race is gonna get comPetitive, too.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2016, 09:53:32 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2016, 10:15:08 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 10:20:12 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2016, 10:21:30 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2016, 10:24:15 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

Uh, per RCP, McCain was leading in March...
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2016, 10:27:20 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

Uh, per RCP, McCain was leading in March...

Only briefly. Obama led for most of March and most of 2008. The idea that March polls don't matter is ridiculous.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2016, 10:29:02 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

Uh, per RCP, McCain was leading in March...

Only briefly. Obama led for most of March and most of 2008. The idea that March polls don't matter is ridiculous.

The fact that McCain led at any point proves they're worthless.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2016, 11:55:52 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

Uh, per RCP, McCain was leading in March...

Only briefly. Obama led for most of March and most of 2008. The idea that March polls don't matter is ridiculous.

The fact that McCain led at any point proves they're worthless.

Any inconvenient fact is worthless now?
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2016, 11:59:08 PM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Obama did similarly to what the March polls showed.

Uh, per RCP, McCain was leading in March...

Only briefly. Obama led for most of March and most of 2008. The idea that March polls don't matter is ridiculous.

The fact that McCain led at any point proves they're worthless.

Any inconvenient fact is worthless now?
Well, you see, in March of 2012, all indications were pointing to moderate turnout.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 01:47:38 AM »

Bernie just mentioned his 22 point lead in the debate.

You've been posting on this forum for 12 years and you still cannot understand that early polls mean nothing.

Early polls can say much, such as

(1) that a candidate has serious weaknesses that can make him irrelevant.
(2) now some states are oriented in partisan politics.
(3) results of events.
(4) collapses.

All are big deals.

 
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2016, 10:22:09 PM »

Primary results tonight show that Michigan is going to be very close in a Clinton vs. TRUMP general. We can safely say that TRUMP will pick up Bernie's working class whites.
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2016, 11:08:00 PM »

Its gonna be close, but ad 2004 showed us, its a D+4 state .
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 11:10:02 PM »

Primary results tonight show that Michigan is going to be very close in a Clinton vs. TRUMP general. We can safely say that TRUMP will pick up Bernie's working class whites.


No, you can't say that safely, at least yet.

I expect Hillary Clinton  to do everything possible to solidify the working-class white votes that Sanders got that Obama could not. She needs a coalition for victory, and she will need those Sanders voters to win election, flip the Senate, and maybe even flip the House.

Obama did horribly among working-class white voters, especially in the South. Maybe that's because he is... well, you know.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 11:20:58 PM »

Primary results tonight show that Michigan is going to be very close in a Clinton vs. TRUMP general. We can safely say that TRUMP will pick up Bernie's working class whites.


No, you can't say that safely, at least yet.

I expect Hillary Clinton  to do everything possible to solidify the working-class white votes that Sanders got that Obama could not. She needs a coalition for victory, and she will need those Sanders voters to win election, flip the Senate, and maybe even flip the House.

Obama did horribly among working-class white voters, especially in the South. Maybe that's because he is... well, you know.

But he did very well with the working class whites in the North. She is just doing badly with them.

That's what I have been telling you for the last six months or so. She will do worse with the working class whites in the North than Obama. And that's where the working class whites actually count.
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