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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2016, 04:37:21 PM »

Good for Sanders for bringing in new people. But seriously, whether out of ignorance or whatever, it's genuinely funny that some people are getting self-righteous that they're not being allowed to commit voter fraud.

Reminds me of an article I read about the Nebraska caucus, where they interviewed a guy who was running one of the polling places. Said he'd gotten multiple calls a while back from the Clinton campaign asking him how the room was going to be set up, exactly how everything was going to work on election day, ect. Never got a call from the Sanders campaign. Sanders' organization needs to step it up. If potential voters of his get turned away because of this the campaign had it coming to them.
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2016, 04:43:59 PM »

Good for Sanders for bringing in new people. But seriously, whether out of ignorance or whatever, it's genuinely funny that some people are getting self-righteous that they're not being allowed to commit voter fraud.

Reminds me of an article I read about the Nebraska caucus, where they interviewed a guy who was running one of the polling places. Said he'd gotten multiple calls a while back from the Clinton campaign asking him how the room was going to be set up, exactly how everything was going to work on election day, ect. Never got a call from the Sanders campaign. Sanders' organization needs to step it up. If potential voters of his get turned away because of this the campaign had it coming to them.

That's easier to organise when you're bailed out by Wall Street.
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2016, 04:48:31 PM »

Good for Sanders for bringing in new people. But seriously, whether out of ignorance or whatever, it's genuinely funny that some people are getting self-righteous that they're not being allowed to commit voter fraud.

Reminds me of an article I read about the Nebraska caucus, where they interviewed a guy who was running one of the polling places. Said he'd gotten multiple calls a while back from the Clinton campaign asking him how the room was going to be set up, exactly how everything was going to work on election day, ect. Never got a call from the Sanders campaign. Sanders' organization needs to step it up. If potential voters of his get turned away because of this the campaign had it coming to them.

That's easier to organise when you're bailed out by Wall Street.
Sanders got over 40 Million in February alone.  Lets dispel the notion that Sanders is at a financial disadvantage.
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2016, 04:53:20 PM »

Good for Sanders for bringing in new people. But seriously, whether out of ignorance or whatever, it's genuinely funny that some people are getting self-righteous that they're not being allowed to commit voter fraud.

Reminds me of an article I read about the Nebraska caucus, where they interviewed a guy who was running one of the polling places. Said he'd gotten multiple calls a while back from the Clinton campaign asking him how the room was going to be set up, exactly how everything was going to work on election day, ect. Never got a call from the Sanders campaign. Sanders' organization needs to step it up. If potential voters of his get turned away because of this the campaign had it coming to them.

That's easier to organise when you're bailed out by Wall Street.
Sanders got over 40 Million in February alone.  Lets dispel the notion that Sanders is at a financial disadvantage.

And money doesn't even have anything to do with stuff like reading the guidelines, or making a phone call. This is basic stuff the campaign could be doing even if they were getting drastically out-raised (and yeah, I know they're not.)
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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2016, 05:20:27 PM »


I believe Hillary has outperformed every caucus compared to how she did in 2008. Even when she's losing by 20, that's better than when she lost by 30 8 years ago.

She got 40% here, so it seems like she could perform similarly this year.
But Clinton has also underperformed in every New England state compared to 2008.

Against a guy from New England.
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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2016, 05:25:22 PM »

Some unofficial, highly anecdotal results so far from twitter and the interwebz:

Bill Trotter ‏@billtrotter  20m20 minutes ago
Ellsworth Dem caucus results: 108 for @HillaryClinton (incl. 40 absentee) & 173 for @SenSanders (incl. 28 absentee).

Freeport Maine:
Clinton: 208 Bernie: 360

District 1 South Portland: ** SANDERS: 246 CLINTON: 149
ELIOT: ** SANDERS: 203 CLINTON: 105
WELL’S: ** SANDERS: 205 CLINTON: 93
FAIRFIELD: ** SANDERS: 78 HILLARY: 49
BERWICK: ** SANDERS: 135 CLINTON: 53
WELLS: ** SANDERS: 239 CLINTON: 174
UNITY: ** SANDERS: 82 CLINTON: 15

Gardiner: Sanders 101, Clinton 66
Eddington: Sanders 32, Clinton 7
North Berwick: Sanders 124, Clinton 37
Palermo: Sanders 37, Clinton 8
Scarborough: Sanders 373, Clinton 321
Saco: Sanders 416, Clinton 273
Topsham: Sanders 247, Clinton 200
Bar Harbor: Sanders 387, Clinton 142
Lyman: Sanders 72, Clinton 7
Yarmouth: Clinton 273, Sanders 234
Rockland: Sanders 320, Clinton 50
Manchester: Sanders 56, Clinton 51
Brewer: Sanders 147, Clinton 71


More stuff:

Pittsfield: Sanders 44, Clinton 24
Detroit: Sanders 6, Clinton 2
Damariscotta: Sanders 87, Clinton 34
Nobleboro: Sanders 118, Clinton 33
Pittston: Sanders 47, Clinton 23
Brunswick: Sanders 878, Clinton 688
Newburgh: Sanders 119, Clinton 74
Farmingdale: Sanders 58, Clinton 42
Cape Elizabeth: Clinton 399, Sanders 392
Porter: Sanders 33, Clinton 8
Cornish: Sanders 30, Clinton 10
Dresden: Sanders 75, Clinton 33
Parsonfield: Sanders 46, Clinton 15
Windham: Sanders 314, Clinton 137
Waterville: Sanders 394, Clinton 274
Richmond: Sanders 78, Clinton 28
Precinct 32 York County: Sanders 353, Clinton 200
Veazie: Sanders 37, Clinton 16
South Portland (all 5 districts): Sanders 819, Clinton 440
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2016, 05:30:17 PM »

Well if a Southern reactionary religious fundamentalist can win Maine, can't Hillary do the same?
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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2016, 05:34:46 PM »

65-35 Sanders, I'd say.
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2016, 05:35:20 PM »

Some unofficial, highly anecdotal results so far from twitter and the interwebz:

Bill Trotter ‏@billtrotter  20m20 minutes ago
Ellsworth Dem caucus results: 108 for @HillaryClinton (incl. 40 absentee) & 173 for @SenSanders (incl. 28 absentee).

Freeport Maine:
Clinton: 208 Bernie: 360

District 1 South Portland: ** SANDERS: 246 CLINTON: 149
ELIOT: ** SANDERS: 203 CLINTON: 105
WELL’S: ** SANDERS: 205 CLINTON: 93
FAIRFIELD: ** SANDERS: 78 HILLARY: 49
BERWICK: ** SANDERS: 135 CLINTON: 53
WELLS: ** SANDERS: 239 CLINTON: 174
UNITY: ** SANDERS: 82 CLINTON: 15

Gardiner: Sanders 101, Clinton 66
Eddington: Sanders 32, Clinton 7
North Berwick: Sanders 124, Clinton 37
Palermo: Sanders 37, Clinton 8
Scarborough: Sanders 373, Clinton 321
Saco: Sanders 416, Clinton 273
Topsham: Sanders 247, Clinton 200
Bar Harbor: Sanders 387, Clinton 142
Lyman: Sanders 72, Clinton 7
Yarmouth: Clinton 273, Sanders 234
Rockland: Sanders 320, Clinton 50
Manchester: Sanders 56, Clinton 51
Brewer: Sanders 147, Clinton 71


More stuff:

Pittsfield: Sanders 44, Clinton 24
Detroit: Sanders 6, Clinton 2
Damariscotta: Sanders 87, Clinton 34
Nobleboro: Sanders 118, Clinton 33
Pittston: Sanders 47, Clinton 23
Brunswick: Sanders 878, Clinton 688
Newburgh: Sanders 119, Clinton 74
Farmingdale: Sanders 58, Clinton 42
Cape Elizabeth: Clinton 399, Sanders 392
Porter: Sanders 33, Clinton 8
Cornish: Sanders 30, Clinton 10
Dresden: Sanders 75, Clinton 33
Parsonfield: Sanders 46, Clinton 15
Windham: Sanders 314, Clinton 137
Waterville: Sanders 394, Clinton 274
Richmond: Sanders 78, Clinton 28
Precinct 32 York County: Sanders 353, Clinton 200
Veazie: Sanders 37, Clinton 16
South Portland (all 5 districts): Sanders 819, Clinton 440

Wowie!  Nice to see the fine people of the North tell the treasonous dogs in the former Confederacy NOT SO FAST!
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2016, 05:45:07 PM »


Looks about that ...
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2016, 06:04:50 PM »


I believe Hillary has outperformed every caucus compared to how she did in 2008. Even when she's losing by 20, that's better than when she lost by 30 8 years ago.

She got 40% here, so it seems like she could perform similarly this year.
But Clinton has also underperformed in every New England state compared to 2008.

Against a guy from New England.
That was my point.  That's why Clinton will lose Maine by more than she did in 2008.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2016, 06:10:20 PM »

I was thinking today that Sanders has actually won only 3 primaries, one of which was his home state.
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2016, 06:21:53 PM »

I was thinking today that Sanders has actually won only 3 primaries, one of which was his home state.

And Clinton has only won 1 non-Southern primary. #CaucusStatesMatter #AllStatesMatter
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2016, 06:23:20 PM »

I was thinking today that Sanders has actually won only 3 primaries, one of which was his home state.

And Clinton has only won 1 non-Southern primary. #CaucusStatesMatter #AllStatesMatter

That will hopefully be changing on Tuesday.
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM »

I was thinking today that Sanders has actually won only 3 primaries, one of which was his home state.

And Clinton has only won 1 non-Southern primary. #CaucusStatesMatter #AllStatesMatter

Besides the fact that it's the Sanders campaign talking about states that "don't matter" I don't think you can say anymore that Virginia is a Southern state.
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2016, 06:35:14 PM »

I was thinking today that Sanders has actually won only 3 primaries, one of which was his home state.

And Clinton has only won 1 non-Southern primary. #CaucusStatesMatter #AllStatesMatter

Besides the fact that it's the Sanders campaign talking about states that "don't matter" I don't think you can say anymore that Virginia is a Southern state.

Do you have a direct quote from the Sanders campaign saying that certain states don't matter? It is a fact that some states are much more favorable to Clinton, just as it is a fact that some states are more favorable to Sanders. And yes, Virginia is a Southern state.
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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2016, 06:56:01 PM »

And yes, Virginia is a Southern state.

Not anymore. It's more of a mid-Atlantic state now and in the last two elections it voted almost exactly as the nation.
Virginia has nothing in common anymore with South Carolina or Mississippi.
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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2016, 07:00:04 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2016, 07:01:42 PM by TheDeadFlagBlues »

And yes, Virginia is a Southern state.

Not anymore. It's more of a mid-Atlantic state now and in the last two elections it voted almost exactly as the nation.
Virginia has nothing in common anymore with South Carolina or Mississippi.

Huh

This is ridiculous. Virginia remains a southron state. It's primary electorate remains very southron: its Black community is clearly southern and many white Democrats, particularly outside of NoVa, are culturally southern.
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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2016, 07:02:45 PM »

In many ways Virginia is still a southern state, northern Virginia is changing that.  So while Virginia is something of a hybrid, it still has a lot of southern characteristics.  This includes the presence of a lot of African Americans, which is what is really being referred to when people write off Clinton's victories in the south.
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« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2016, 07:03:11 PM »

U.S. Census Bureau classifies Virginia as a Southern State. Though, they also classify Delaware as a Southern state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
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« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2016, 07:04:41 PM »

And yes, Virginia is a Southern state.

Not anymore. It's more of a mid-Atlantic state now and in the last two elections it voted almost exactly as the nation.
Virginia has nothing in common anymore with South Carolina or Mississippi.

Huh

This is ridiculous. Virginia remains a southron state. It's primary electorate remains very southron: its Black community is clearly southern and many white Democrats, particularly outside of NoVa, are culturally southern.

Maryland and Delaware have also substantial black populations. Are they southern states too?
And the southern parts of the state (the "real Virginia") are having less and less electoral influence with each passing election.
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« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2016, 07:05:31 PM »

Maryland and Delaware have also substantial black populations. Are they southern states too?

U.S. Census Bureau thinks so.
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« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2016, 07:09:10 PM »

Sanders is still a threat. I think it depends on what happens next. I think it will be awhile for another favorable state to come his way though other than Ohio or Michigan.
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« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2016, 07:12:48 PM »

And yes, Virginia is a Southern state.

Not anymore. It's more of a mid-Atlantic state now and in the last two elections it voted almost exactly as the nation.
Virginia has nothing in common anymore with South Carolina or Mississippi.

Huh

This is ridiculous. Virginia remains a southron state. It's primary electorate remains very southron: its Black community is clearly southern and many white Democrats, particularly outside of NoVa, are culturally southern.

Maryland and Delaware have also substantial black populations. Are they southern states too?
And the southern parts of the state (the "real Virginia") are having less and less electoral influence with each passing election.

Yes; at least, large swathes of Delaware and Maryland are culturally southern. I don't think this is up for dispute. The only people who think this isn't the case either don't know much about Maryland's history or have never been there. I've never been to either state but I've read enough to say with some confidence that it retains a distinctly Southern character.

Most Americans don't understand this but Baltimore is more culturally southern than the DC metro area; its white working class migrants tended to come from rural farming communities in the South rather than Europe. Hence the bizarre "Balmer" accent that has a distinctly Southern twang.

Anyways, African-Americans throughout the US are Southern, for the most part. They were either born in the South, have parents who were born in the South or are the grandchildren of migrants from the South.
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« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2016, 07:22:01 PM »


CORRECTION: Sanders has a 0% chance to win the nomination now. None. Nada. Zilch.
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