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Richard
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« on: May 31, 2005, 10:24:20 AM »

As an African American, I frown upon the "culture" that comes from African Americans.  It is not one that teaches kids responsibility.  In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rap, hip hop, and the African American culture can teach teens.

I have a very unfavorable view.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2005, 10:33:33 AM »

As an African American, I frown upon the "culture" that comes from African Americans.  It is not one that teaches kids responsibility.  In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rap, hip hop, and the African American culture can teach teens.

I have a very unfavorable view.

Don't confuse "Hip Hop" culture with African American culture.  That a bit like saying, in the late 1950's, "In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rock and role and suburban WASP culture can teach teens."
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2005, 10:57:46 AM »

Not that there's any sort of major gulf between rap and country lyrics.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2005, 12:08:57 PM »

Of modern african american culture, definitly unfavorable.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2005, 01:03:06 PM »


Are you defining this culture outside of the music, which is the only facet you mention?  I don't listen to rap or hip-hop, but I don't think the music that I listen to "teaches" me anything, except perhaps recognizing harmonies and chord progressions and stuff like that.  What kind of music are you aware of that "teaches responsibility"?
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2005, 03:49:05 PM »

As an African American, I frown upon the "culture" that comes from African Americans.  It is not one that teaches kids responsibility.  In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rap, hip hop, and the African American culture can teach teens.

I have a very unfavorable view.

Unfavorable of the culture that you speak of, but favorable toward the African-American culture which embraces religious practice and peace.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2005, 04:05:10 PM »

Of modern african american culture, definitly unfavorable.

If it is so definite, would you care to explain what African-American culture is?

As I see it, it is a lot more than that which has been expressed here.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2005, 04:51:58 PM »

As an African American, I frown upon the "culture" that comes from African Americans.  It is not one that teaches kids responsibility.  In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rap, hip hop, and the African American culture can teach teens.

I have a very unfavorable view.

American culture is almost entirely garbage.  The African-american portion is slightly better than the rest.

However you, Richius, are not an African-American, you are a white racist.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2005, 07:59:27 PM »
« Edited: May 31, 2005, 08:16:06 PM by Bob »

However you, Richius, are not an African-American, you are a white racist.

How is he not African-American? He's a lot more African than American blacks.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2005, 08:01:07 PM »

However you, Richius, are not an African-American, you are a white racist.

How is not African-American? He's a lot more African than American blacks.

His ancestors are from Europe, and he lives in Canada.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2005, 08:03:42 PM »

How is not African-American? He's a lot more African than American blacks.

His ancestors are from Europe, and he lives in Canada.

So? He was born in Africa. As for him living in Canada- well, that would disqualify all American blacks from being considered "African-American", wouldn't it?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2005, 08:04:45 PM »

How is not African-American? He's a lot more African than American blacks.

His ancestors are from Europe, and he lives in Canada.

So? He was born in Africa. As for him living in Canada- well, that would disqualify all American blacks from being considered "African-American", wouldn't it?

The African part refers to the race. And what is American about Richius?
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2005, 08:05:08 PM »

Canada is part of North America.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2005, 08:06:14 PM »

Unfavorable of the culture that you speak of, but favorable toward the African-American culture which embraces religious practice and peace.
I agree.  I voted "disagree" in the poll since Richius was referring only to the negative parts of black culture.  It would be like me posting a poll saying "Do you agree with white culture?" and then saying "How do you feel about fast food, obesity, and selfism?"
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2005, 08:06:57 PM »

The African part refers to the race. And what is American about Richius?

Uhhh... Africa is a continent, not a skin color. And as Philip pointed out, Canada is part of the Americas.
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2005, 08:14:03 PM »
« Edited: May 31, 2005, 08:15:46 PM by patrick1 »

As an African American, I frown upon the "culture" that comes from African Americans.  It is not one that teaches kids responsibility.  In fact, I find it hard to think of a single positive thing that rap, hip hop, and the African American culture can teach teens.

I have a very unfavorable view.

You using the term African American points out the absurd current usage of the term.  I've also thought Black was more descriptive ans useful.  Current Black American poular culture has been infected with the same mindless materialism and violence as the rest of current Western culture.  A continuing legacy of the slavery era is the damage done to Black culture by destroying its roots and superimposing a Western culture upon it.   
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2005, 09:09:04 PM »

The only different between Black American and White American culture in respect to materialism that I see is that the former puts huge importance in obtaining it; the latter puts huge importance in already having it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2005, 09:16:16 PM »

The difference between Richius and what is typically meant by "African-American" (which I agree is a rather absurd usage of the term and just Black is fine, I believe even NixonNow would technically be an African-American) is not his skin color or even that he lives in Canada (we could just assume that he lives in the US for now), but rather that it typically refers to people whose ancestors were slaves, not immigrants from Africa. And that is what hip hop and all that stuff is based around. Black immigrants from Africa are also much different than the descendents of slaves, this is pretty clear in Minneapolis, pretty much any "native" black living there would agree that they have much more in common with the whites than the Somali immigrants.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2005, 09:43:41 PM »

How is not African-American? He's a lot more African than American blacks.

His ancestors are from Europe, and he lives in Canada.

So? He was born in Africa. As for him living in Canada- well, that would disqualify all American blacks from being considered "African-American", wouldn't it?

It is offensive of him to question the self chosen appelation of the subject peoples, given that he is of the race which has enslaved them.  One of those 'kicking them while their down' sorts of things.  Simply unsportsmanlike.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2005, 09:45:14 PM »

Opebo, you're quite racist.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2005, 09:48:21 PM »


So?  That is beside the point.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2005, 09:49:52 PM »


No, it isn't. It's a valid point, considering how sanctimonious you are.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2005, 09:54:15 PM »


No, it isn't. It's a valid point, considering how sanctimonious you are.

I'm not at all sanctimonious.  It isn't necessary to be sanctimonious to recognize that Richius is a glaring example of poor taste and poor sportsmanship.

If you're going to advocate the subjugation of a people, at least be honest about it.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2005, 09:58:23 PM »

I'm not at all sanctimonious.  It isn't necessary to be sanctimonious to recognize that Richius is a glaring example of poor taste and poor sportsmanship.

No. He's technically an African-American, and there's nothing wrong with him calling himself that.

If you're going to advocate the subjugation of a people, at least be honest about it.

OK I HATE TEH BLACKS AND WWANT TO OPPRES THEM1!!!1111!!!
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2005, 10:02:00 PM »

I'm not at all sanctimonious.  It isn't necessary to be sanctimonious to recognize that Richius is a glaring example of poor taste and poor sportsmanship.

No. He's technically an African-American, and there's nothing wrong with him calling himself that.

No, he isn't African-American - none of the colonial overlords that were his progenitors were 'African'.  They were there to enslave the Africans.  And what is 'wrong' with him calling himself that is that he is doing so as a self-consciously offensive pose to rub in the oppressed status of the blacks he hates.

If you're going to advocate the subjugation of a people, at least be honest about it.
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