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The Other Castro
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« on: February 18, 2016, 06:03:56 PM »

Bernie Sanders 47% (+10)
Hillary Clinton 44% (-5)

Donald Trump 36% (+2)
Ted Cruz 19% (-1)
Marco Rubio 15% (+4)
Ben Carson 9% (+1)
Jeb Bush 9% (+5)
John Kasich 8% (+4)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/02/18/fox-news-poll-national-presidential-race-february-18-2016/

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 06:05:08 PM »

I'll grab a towel.

Outlier, but it'll make some people happy.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 06:06:11 PM »

The GOP poll looks fine.

The Democratic poll is as bad as yesterday's WSJ poll that had Cruz leading.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 06:07:47 PM »

Yeah, Bernie's not leading, but prepare for the media to collectively wet themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 06:08:07 PM »

pshhhhhh
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 06:09:17 PM »

Probably an outlier, but it underscores the momentum Sanders has gained nationally. 538 put out projections that said (essentially) Sanders needs to lead by 5 in national polls to eek out enough support from the states to win (extrapolating racial voting patterns is risky, but our best bet).

I think it is fairly obvious at this point that Clinton is in trouble in Nevada and has no safe space outside of the South. Sanders is not going to recreate the Obama coalition but he can still win by cutting into the 08 Clinton coalition. Namely, by picking up strength with working class whites. If Sanders can do well amongst the working poor across the Appalachians and Midwest and link that support with modest minority support and well educated liberals, he will win.

The Clinton team needs to do a lot of work, but crucially, cannot ignore working class whites. I firmly believe if Sanders wins that demo decisively, he will win this nomination.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 06:09:47 PM »

Typically, the Democrats have sanity on their side. If they actually end up choosing Bernie, I'm out. Let's hope Kasich can survive.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 06:09:55 PM »

The GOP poll looks fine.

The Democratic poll is as bad as yesterday's WSJ poll that had Cruz leading.

I've got to believe that Trump may have hurt himself a bit by slamming Bush 43 as he did.  If he had slammed Bush 43 as a faux conservative, that would be one thing, but Bush's 9/11 "heroics" are a talking point ALL Republicans still make hay on; even Rand Paul to an extent.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 06:11:01 PM »

JEEEEEEEEEBMENTUM!!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 06:16:29 PM »

Nevada remains a mystery
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 06:23:37 PM »

lol ok
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 06:28:18 PM »



We'll see whether this is reflective of an overall trend.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2016, 06:33:09 PM »

Here's the polling trend nationally. So while it may be an outlier....it's not necessarily out of the realm of possibility

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2016, 06:35:09 PM »

Yeah, I don't buy it either. But the trend is encouraging.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2016, 06:35:37 PM »

Poll is probably an outlier, but it's official: Hillary isn't a good politician.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2016, 06:36:56 PM »

Wow, how embarrassing it would be to go 0/2 for Hillary, especially when her husband became president on the first try.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2016, 06:39:26 PM »

It was only a matter of time before the first BERNIE TAKES THE LEAD NATIONALLY SHOCK POLL hit. Honestly, I think we would have seen this a lot earlier if there had been any substantial amount of polling in the days right after New Hampshire.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2016, 06:40:48 PM »

Watch this be the only poll he ever leads in.
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2016, 06:50:27 PM »

Here's the polling trend nationally. So while it may be an outlier....it's not necessarily out of the realm of possibility


Outliers are literally outside of the realm of possibility. That is why we eliminate them.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2016, 06:50:56 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2016, 06:53:08 PM »

If Sanders can win NV, it will have a domino effect, even without SC.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2016, 07:31:48 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2016, 07:59:48 PM »

Here's the polling trend nationally. So while it may be an outlier....it's not necessarily out of the realm of possibility


Outliers are literally outside of the realm of possibility. That is why we eliminate them.

Actually, in policy analysis and social science research, you usually eliminate outliers because it's an easy way to nudge your p-values toward significance.

This isn't an implausible result, but I'll be waiting on other polls before I draw any strong conclusions. In any case, I have a difficult time getting excited about my preferred candidate leading a national poll when he's still between -30 and -20 in the next primary state.
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2016, 08:02:17 PM »

Let's put this one right in the traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash.
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2016, 08:04:33 PM »

YEAH!!!!!

BTW, the pollster is rated a B by 538.
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