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« on: February 18, 2016, 06:13:47 AM »
« edited: February 18, 2016, 06:28:49 AM by Mr. Morden »

Quinnnipiac national poll, conducted Feb. 10-15:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2324

Clinton 44%
Trump 43%

Cruz 46%
Clinton 43%

Rubio 48%
Clinton 41%

Bush 44%
Clinton 43%

Kasich 47%
Clinton 39%

Sanders 48%
Trump 42%

Sanders 49%
Cruz 39%

Sanders 47%
Rubio 41%

Sanders 49%
Bush 39%

Sanders 45%
Kasich 41%

Sanders 38%
Trump 38%
Bloomberg 12%

Sanders 39%
Cruz 33%
Bloomberg 14%
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 06:16:13 AM »

Opps looks like atlas is wrong...again. Sanders outperforming with everyone!
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 06:25:25 AM »
« Edited: February 18, 2016, 06:31:40 AM by Phony Moderate »

Hillary at 37/58 favorables, TRUMP at 37/57...

Also, Hillary and TRUMP are the only two candidates seen by a majority of Americans as having a chance of winning the GE, though Bernie gets a plurality (47/44).
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 06:30:24 AM »

Is there any particular voter group responsible for Trump doing worse than the other Republicans in the GE matchup with Clinton?  The difference is largely spread pretty evenly among demographic groups, but the biggest difference is Hispanics.

Against Clinton….
Rubio loses Hispanics by 28
Bush loses Hispanics by 34
Cruz loses Hispanics by 37
Kasich loses Hispanics by 49
Trump loses Hispanics by 50 (67% to 17%)

So Kasich does poorly among Hispanics as well, but makes up for it being the strongest Republican among both whites and blacks.

fav/unfav % among all voters:

Kasich 35/18% for +17%
Sanders 51/36% for +15%
Rubio 39/37% for +2%
Bloomberg 21/26% for -5%
Cruz 36/45% for -9%
Bush 37/48% for -11%
Trump 37/57% for -20%
Clinton 37/58% for -21%
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 07:28:14 AM »
« Edited: February 18, 2016, 07:31:02 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Well, this DEMOLISHES the Hillary is more electable argument.
Bernie does this much better
Trump 7
Cruz 13
Rubio 13
Bush 11
Kasich 12

That's an average of 11 points. If the Democratic party nominates Hillary, they are flying the white flag.of defeat.

No wonder Republican SuperPAC Future 45 is running ads against Bernie. The Republicans best chance at winning in November is to prop Hillary up in the primaries.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 08:41:59 AM »

I do not buy the arguments that polls like this implies that Sanders is more electable.  Sanders has these number exactly because he is not seen as not likely to be the Dem nominee.  As soon as it is clear that he is the likely nominee his negatives will rise as well.  I can make a similar argument about Rubio's and  Kasich's numbers as well.  Trump vs Clinton and Cruz vs Clinton is the best approximation of where the general election will look like which seems to be neck-to-neck between GOP and Dem with high negatives for both candidates. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 08:45:25 AM »

I do not buy the arguments that polls like this implies that Sanders is more electable.  Sanders has these number exactly because he is not seen as not likely to be the Dem nominee.  As soon as it is clear that he is the likely nominee his negatives will rise as well. 

Probably true of Biden (who was also doing better than Hillary in the GE when he was being heavily speculated about) too.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 08:51:41 AM »

Obama is attacked by republicans more often than Clinton but he maintains much better favourability numbers. There's no reason why Clinton should have worse favourability than Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 10:13:09 AM »

I feel like this is a junk poll.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 01:06:09 PM »

One Clinton was enough. People are sick of their BS.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2016, 02:34:18 PM »

One Clinton was enough. People are sick of their BS.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2016, 02:56:55 PM »

This is sad.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2016, 05:54:14 PM »

"Establishment" politicians of both the GOP and the Democratic Party are doing badly this year.  Hillary Clinton is as Establishment as they get.

It could be in her case that the Clinton coalition is no more. It could not get Al Gore elected. Kerry did worse in trying to resuscitate it. Obama got clobbered by margins larger than 10% in five states (Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Tennessee, and West Virginia that Clinton won) -- twice. Democrats have a better chance of winning Virginia (a state that neither Carter nor Clinton carried) than any of the New Orleans-Charleston (WV) arc.

At this point I practically see Hillary Clinton losing much like Kerry in 2004 -- but Bernie Sanders winning much like Obama in 2008 or 2012.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2016, 06:37:19 PM »

Rubio is doing great against Clinton!
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2016, 07:16:57 PM »

"Establishment" politicians of both the GOP and the Democratic Party are doing badly this year.  Hillary Clinton is as Establishment as they get.

It could be in her case that the Clinton coalition is no more. It could not get Al Gore elected. Kerry did worse in trying to resuscitate it. Obama got clobbered by margins larger than 10% in five states (Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Tennessee, and West Virginia that Clinton won) -- twice. Democrats have a better chance of winning Virginia (a state that neither Carter nor Clinton carried) than any of the New Orleans-Charleston (WV) arc.

At this point I practically see Hillary Clinton losing much like Kerry in 2004 -- but Bernie Sanders winning much like Obama in 2008 or 2012.

You are absolutely correct, either the Dems lose a 272-266 style election, and Sanders win a 2012 map, the email drama, voters are sick of cynical, not Dem politcs.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2016, 01:18:29 AM »

I doubt that these bad numbers would hold for Clinton. She has been held to the most scrutiny.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2016, 01:23:16 AM »

I doubt that these bad numbers would hold for Clinton. She has been held to the most scrutiny.

Her numbers are 37-58...how could she bounce back from that in a general??
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2016, 01:27:30 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2016, 02:00:17 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.

The Republican attacks work on her cause she has been shown to be corrupt and not trustworthy. They are not working on Sanders. Everyone knows he's a democratic socialist so why would their minds change in November?
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2016, 02:02:05 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.

The Republican attacks work on her cause she has been shown to be corrupt and not trustworthy. They are not working on Sanders. Everyone knows he's a democratic socialist so why would their minds change in November?

Sanders can't even get liberal policy wonks to back a lot of his plans.  Do you really think he'll withstand a lot of scrutiny once the right-wing  complex levels begins its attacks at him?
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2016, 02:37:38 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.

The Republican attacks work on her cause she has been shown to be corrupt and not trustworthy. They are not working on Sanders. Everyone knows he's a democratic socialist so why would their minds change in November?

Sanders can't even get liberal policy wonks to back a lot of his plans.  Do you really think he'll withstand a lot of scrutiny once the right-wing  complex levels begins its attacks at him?

The right-wing is already attacking Bernie, and those Hillary hacks will let up on Bernie once he gets the nomination.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2016, 07:10:09 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.

America has been polarized enough that 47% of the people will simply vote for the more right-wing candidate and 47% of the people will simply vote for the more left-wing candidate irrespective of quality. Just think of it: in 2008 Barack Obama won only a near-landslide and nothing like a 45-state landslide that one would expect after the abject failure of the previous Administration and a Republican nominee who offered much the same policies as Dubya.

Unless something changes drastically this year, this reality that has remained since 2000 will persist. Current politicians generally reflect this pattern.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2016, 08:09:46 AM »

2016, seems like a perfect breakout year for either Sanders or Clinton since Scalia nomination  had been thwarted by Mitch McConnell and the GOP senate.
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2016, 09:18:05 AM »

Sanders has not had a single negative national news cycle his entire life, and he still only leads Trump by 6? Not impressive.

And yeah, Hillary has bounced back from high negatives before, and she can again... if she can make it to the general healthy.

The Republican attacks work on her cause she has been shown to be corrupt and not trustworthy. They are not working on Sanders. Everyone knows he's a democratic socialist so why would their minds change in November?

Sanders can't even get liberal policy wonks to back a lot of his plans.  Do you really think he'll withstand a lot of scrutiny once the right-wing  complex levels begins its attacks at him?

The right-wing is already attacking Bernie, and those Hillary hacks will let up on Bernie once he gets the nomination.

The Obama coalition will remain intact; no Republican has anything to offer the usual Obama voter.  But if Bernie Sanders can win support from the sorts of people who rejected Obama due to being black -- then the Republicans will have a very bad time. 
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2016, 09:27:33 AM »

The Scalia judgeship has severly damaged the GOP, especially in the swing state of OH, which they had a strong chanceof winning. Blacks will come out in droves against Trump.
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