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« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2016, 07:33:04 PM »

Michigan, for example, is not likely to be decided by ten points.
Yeah, most of the other Michigan polls have Clinton up by a lot more.
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« Reply #101 on: February 17, 2016, 07:39:47 PM »

I don't know why everyone expects Sanders to win Colorado. It's a closed caucus; only registered Democrats can vote. In Iowa, Clinton crushed Sanders with Democrats by 17%. In NH it was basically a tie, and his entire margin of victory came from Independents.
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« Reply #102 on: February 17, 2016, 07:42:13 PM »

Oklahoma Democrats were so racist towards Obama.

Edwards probably would've won Oklahoma if he had stayed in long enough.

I believe Clinton was leading early polls there vs. McCain.  I know she was ahead in AR, WV and KY.
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« Reply #103 on: February 17, 2016, 07:43:41 PM »

I don't know why everyone expects Sanders to win Colorado. It's a closed caucus; only registered Democrats can vote. In Iowa, Clinton crushed Sanders with Democrats by 17%. In NH it was basically a tie, and his entire margin of victory came from Independents.

Hillary has always been quite unpopular among western whites, and Obama crushed her in 2008's caucus.
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« Reply #104 on: February 17, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »

I don't know why everyone expects Sanders to win Colorado. It's a closed caucus; only registered Democrats can vote. In Iowa, Clinton crushed Sanders with Democrats by 17%. In NH it was basically a tie, and his entire margin of victory came from Independents.

(checks 04 Colorado results)

Hey, Dennis Kucinich got 13 delegates out of Colorado in 04 vs Kerry after everybody else dropped out.

Registered Colorado Democrats don't need much help from Unaffiliated voters to bring out a bunch of caucus votes for the more liberal candidate. I think Sanders is gonna do pretty well in areas around Aspen/Boulder/Denver and if he doesn't win Colorado, then that'd be a shocker.
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« Reply #105 on: February 17, 2016, 08:00:53 PM »

FINALLY SOME SUPER TUESDAY POLLS

FINALLYYYYYYYYYY

But yeah, really great numbers for Sanders. If he's leading in Massachusetts, then he's pretty much safe in Minnesota and Colorado. Those three, added to Vermont (heh) and possibly Oklahoma, give him a healthy five of the Super Tuesday states.

Very exciting.

It's not the number of states won, it's the number of delegates.  Close wins in Massachusetts and Oklahoma would only net Bernie a handful of delegates. 20%+ wins by Hillary in Georgia, Texas, Tennessee etc on the other hand would net Hillary a  a whole bunch of delegates.  If this polling is accurate Hillary will have a nearly insurmountably lead come March 15.
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« Reply #106 on: February 17, 2016, 08:02:47 PM »

I don't know why everyone expects Sanders to win Colorado. It's a closed caucus; only registered Democrats can vote. In Iowa, Clinton crushed Sanders with Democrats by 17%. In NH it was basically a tie, and his entire margin of victory came from Independents.

(checks 04 Colorado results)

Hey, Dennis Kucinich got 13 delegates out of Colorado in 04 vs Kerry after everybody else dropped out.

Registered Colorado Democrats don't need much help from Unaffiliated voters to bring out a bunch of caucus votes for the more liberal candidate. I think Sanders is gonna do pretty well in areas around Aspen/Boulder/Denver and if he doesn't win Colorado, then that'd be a shocker.

Not sure about Colorado but most caucus states offer same night registration.
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« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2016, 08:17:03 PM »

Not sure about Colorado but most caucus states offer same night registration.
Colorado does not. It is too late to change your registration.
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« Reply #108 on: February 17, 2016, 08:21:00 PM »

FINALLY SOME SUPER TUESDAY POLLS

FINALLYYYYYYYYYY

But yeah, really great numbers for Sanders. If he's leading in Massachusetts, then he's pretty much safe in Minnesota and Colorado. Those three, added to Vermont (heh) and possibly Oklahoma, give him a healthy five of the Super Tuesday states.

Very exciting.

It's not the number of states won, it's the number of delegates.  Close wins in Massachusetts and Oklahoma would only net Bernie a handful of delegates. 20%+ wins by Hillary in Georgia, Texas, Tennessee etc on the other hand would net Hillary a  a whole bunch of delegates.  If this polling is accurate Hillary will have a nearly insurmountably lead come March 15.

LOL Sanders doesn't have a chance of winning a majority of the delegates. I just want him to have a good chunk of the map when we look back at this election in ten years.
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« Reply #109 on: February 17, 2016, 08:24:38 PM »

It's gonna be hard to top the 2008 maps for "primary maps that tell us things about America's regions"...

but there's some potential to get unique county splits for Clinton vs Sanders. Maybe sorta like Gary Hart vs Mondale splits?
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« Reply #110 on: February 18, 2016, 12:00:36 AM »

Stomping in Vermont, leading in Massachusetts, and only behind by 2 in Oklahoma? That's pretty damn good. Add on Minnesota and Colorado, which are thought to be favorable for Sanders (especially Minnesota) and that's great for an insurgent candidate with no chance of winning. That would be enough to carry him to Nebraska, Kansas, and Maine (I don't see him winning Louisiana) on the 5th and 6th.
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« Reply #111 on: February 18, 2016, 01:12:21 AM »

FINALLY SOME SUPER TUESDAY POLLS

FINALLYYYYYYYYYY

But yeah, really great numbers for Sanders. If he's leading in Massachusetts, then he's pretty much safe in Minnesota and Colorado. Those three, added to Vermont (heh) and possibly Oklahoma, give him a healthy five of the Super Tuesday states.

Very exciting.

It's not the number of states won, it's the number of delegates.  Close wins in Massachusetts and Oklahoma would only net Bernie a handful of delegates. 20%+ wins by Hillary in Georgia, Texas, Tennessee etc on the other hand would net Hillary a  a whole bunch of delegates.  If this polling is accurate Hillary will have a nearly insurmountably lead come March 15.

LOL Sanders doesn't have a chance of winning a majority of the delegates. I just want him to have a good chunk of the map when we look back at this election in ten years.

Super Tuesday is one of Clinton's best stretches, Sanders will do well in the end stages in California n stuff and there is a bunch of Western states he will do well. After this he will likely win 3/4 bar Jindal's state & have a string of victories in end march-april beginning.

Even if Sanders looses by 20 odd points, he will gets a considerable chunk of delegates & 5 out of 11  states is very good especially considering Mass, Minn, etc which have a big chunk of delegates. And it is very likely that he could make up more votes & this being PPP, most of his losses could likely by around 15% odd.

I am thrilled if this is actual result
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« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2016, 01:46:30 AM »

Of course they didn't poll CO, MN, AK. States which Bernie will easily win.

Bernie also has the chance to win MA, OK and VA. Together with VT.
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« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2016, 01:48:40 AM »

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« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2016, 01:50:54 AM »

Of course they didn't poll CO, MN, AK. States which Bernie will easily win.

Bernie also has the chance to win MA, OK and VA. Together with VT.

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« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2016, 02:03:14 AM »

Clinton is going to utterly DEMOLISH Sanders in terms of delegates in less than two weeks, his gunna be good.
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« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2016, 02:07:34 AM »

Of course they didn't poll CO, MN, AK. States which Bernie will easily win.

Bernie also has the chance to win MA, OK and VA. Together with VT.

Unless you're trying to copy Lief's style Tender this was explained a few pages ago: these states weren't polled because they were CAUCUS states.
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« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2016, 04:43:42 AM »
« Edited: February 18, 2016, 04:48:23 AM by Ljube »

I don't buy anything coming from CPP (Clinton Policy Polling). They are completely invested in the Clinton cause.
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« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2016, 04:52:14 AM »

I don't buy anything coming from CPP (Clinton Policy Polling). They are completely invested in the Clinton cause.

As if we cared about your opinion.
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« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2016, 06:32:40 AM »

Of course they didn't poll CO, MN, AK. States which Bernie will easily win.

Bernie also has the chance to win MA, OK and VA. Together with VT.



The word conspiracy is rather overused by Hillary supporters. This poll was paid for by a Hillary supporter, for crying out loud. Sometimes I wish there was a campaign running against you guys.
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« Reply #120 on: February 18, 2016, 06:36:54 AM »

Keep trying... I fully expect Sanders to win pretty much all the March caucuses.

It's funny you say that... this campaign really is bringing out the worst in a lot of people (on both sides), myself included.
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« Reply #121 on: February 18, 2016, 07:45:24 AM »

I don't buy anything coming from CPP (Clinton Policy Polling). They are completely invested in the Clinton cause.

As if we cared about your opinion.

What a dumb statement ? What are you - the owner of this forum who will decide what everyone will care about or not?

Dumb statement dummy!
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« Reply #122 on: February 18, 2016, 08:01:42 AM »

I don't buy anything coming from CPP (Clinton Policy Polling). They are completely invested in the Clinton cause.

As if we cared about your opinion.

What a dumb statement ? What are you - the owner of this forum who will decide what everyone will care about or not?

Dumb statement dummy!

How old are you exactly?
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« Reply #123 on: February 18, 2016, 08:11:25 AM »

I know it's his home state but that 89-10 lead is still very impressive for Sanders in Vermont
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« Reply #124 on: February 18, 2016, 11:07:15 AM »

Wow, this was a total hackfest. Jesus.

An issue for Sanders with the primary calendar is that if Clinton hits a majority of delegates with all her supers and an early boost from the South she might get coronated well in advance.
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