SC-CBS/YouGov: D: Clinton 59% Sanders 40%; R: Trump 42% Cruz 20% Rubio 15% Kasich 9%
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2016, 11:42:08 AM »

I was hoping for a Nevada poll today, guess we are going into the caucus completely blind.

Overtime is coming out with a Nevada poll on the 19th :-)

A real poll, not some guy making up numbers.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2016, 11:53:35 AM »

I would be very surprised if Sanders does as well with Southern whites as he did with New Hampshire whites.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2016, 12:06:15 PM »

Yep, that's more like it.

Also notice how YouGov/CBS was within 2% in IA and NH on the Dem. side.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2016, 12:11:04 PM »

I would be very surprised if Sanders does as well with Southern whites as he did with New Hampshire whites.

What do you base this on?  Are there really many more conservative whites left in the Dem party in the South? If only for practical reasons, many of those types may have become Pubs for one of the reasons I became a Dem in NY. That is where the action is. 
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2016, 12:13:48 PM »

blacks:
Clinton 73%
Sanders 26%

women:
Clinton 70%
Sanders 29%

age 65+:
Clinton 69%
Sanders 29%


So old, black women should be almost 100% in Clinton's camp. Those numbers, if correct, are truely impressive.
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2016, 12:19:03 PM »


Too big of a MOE to judge anything from this. I am sure a win in Nevada can give a substantial positive swing for Sanders.

I think the estimate of 40-60 or maybe 42/43-57/58 is a fair assessment at this point. Clinton is ahead by about 15-20% odd IMO even after the Sanders NH momentum.

The target for Sanders is to get the loss down to 10% or less & win close to 40% of the black votes.

Very worrying for Clinton in the general though, SC is majority white even with such big black population. She is in for a huge defeat overall with such poor polling among whites if she ends up getting elected
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2016, 12:21:56 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2016, 12:23:28 PM »

Pre-Debate poll?
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2016, 12:24:14 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Hillary's younger than Bernie.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2016, 12:24:30 PM »

Will be fun watching Trump vs Clinton debates.

Too late for the GOP, what a disaster. Don't say I didn't tell you guys so when you're moping around with a third loss on November 9th because you can't nominate a man with common sense and intelligence.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2016, 12:25:14 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

I'm confused out a 75 year old man with bad posture and yellow teeth is the future of anything.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2016, 12:27:48 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Hillary's younger than Bernie.

I wasn't talking about the candidates' age but of comparing the movement and messages of Sanders' campaign (which is inspiring young people like Obama did) relative to Clinton's bloodless campaign of limping over the finish line ... No wonder young people are abandoning the mainstream parties all over the world while only the minorities and olds remain to back them.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2016, 12:37:37 PM »

I would be very surprised if Sanders does as well with Southern whites as he did with New Hampshire whites.

What do you base this on?  Are there really many more conservative whites left in the Dem party in the South? If only for practical reasons, many of those types may have become Pubs for one of the reasons I became a Dem in NY. That is where the action is.  
I'm surprised too.  Whites aren't monolithic.  Conservative whites in New Hampshire act nothing like conservative whites in South Carolina, and obviously both liberal and conservative whites voted differently between Iowa and New Hampshire.  So yeah, it does surprise me that/if whites in the south behave like whites in New England (which is arguably the region that Sanders is the best fit for).

 
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2016, 12:38:27 PM »

Wow, talk about a gender gap.

Also, if Bush gets that percentage, it's time to drop out.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2016, 01:01:57 PM »

Wow, talk about a gender gap.

Also, if Bush gets that percentage, it's time to drop out.

Are you sure he's not too arrogant to realize that? He thinks that his money and name are everything.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2016, 01:11:25 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Hillary's younger than Bernie.

I wasn't talking about the candidates' age but of comparing the movement and messages of Sanders' campaign (which is inspiring young people like Obama did) relative to Clinton's bloodless campaign of limping over the finish line ... No wonder young people are abandoning the mainstream parties all over the world while only the minorities and olds remain to back them.
Another anti-minorities comment by s Bernie supporter. And you wonder why he is getting his ass kicked in SC.
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2016, 01:16:47 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Hillary's younger than Bernie.

I wasn't talking about the candidates' age but of comparing the movement and messages of Sanders' campaign (which is inspiring young people like Obama did) relative to Clinton's bloodless campaign of limping over the finish line ... No wonder young people are abandoning the mainstream parties all over the world while only the minorities and olds remain to back them.
Another anti-minorities comment by s Bernie supporter. And you wonder why he is getting his ass kicked in SC.

Patronizing, elitist candidate attracts patronizing, elitist supporters.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2016, 01:35:58 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party
, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Ah yes, the thinly veiled racism of the Berniebros. Posts like this make me understand why Bernie's attempts at outreach have been trash.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2016, 01:36:51 PM »

Not a great day as long as you have Trump
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2016, 01:43:29 PM »

jeb is a joke. The TRUMPening is happening folks. Gonna be fun.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2016, 01:46:02 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

Hillary is a relic of the past and the past is not coming back. Dems have to look to the future and Bernie is the FUTURE GUY and not Hillary.

Hillary's younger than Bernie.

I wasn't talking about the candidates' age but of comparing the movement and messages of Sanders' campaign (which is inspiring young people like Obama did) relative to Clinton's bloodless campaign of limping over the finish line ... No wonder young people are abandoning the mainstream parties all over the world while only the minorities and olds remain to back them.
Another anti-minorities comment by s Bernie supporter. And you wonder why he is getting his ass kicked in SC.

Patronizing, elitist candidate attracts patronizing, elitist supporters.

But enough about Hillary.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2016, 01:48:18 PM »

Both Trump and Sanders inching up from previous polls.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2016, 01:54:48 PM »


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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2016, 02:04:16 PM »

Don't know what these old (black) (wo)men see in Hillary.

They are not the future of the Democratic Party, but young and middle-aged working Dems are.

lol
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2016, 02:11:26 PM »

"Margin of error of 9" doesn't mean "It could be [reported result-9] just as it could be [reported result+9]." It just means there's a 95% probability that the result will fall somewhere within that range.
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