SC-CBS/YouGov: D: Clinton 59% Sanders 40%; R: Trump 42% Cruz 20% Rubio 15% Kasich 9%
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Mr. Morden
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« on: February 14, 2016, 10:18:30 AM »
« edited: February 14, 2016, 10:37:15 AM by Mr. Morden »

CBS/YouGov poll of SC, conducted Feb. 10-12:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-south-carolina-still-solidly-for-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/




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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2016, 10:22:23 AM »

Trump 42?

Oh good god yes.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2016, 10:25:31 AM »
« Edited: February 14, 2016, 10:33:45 AM by Fusionmunster »

Sounds about right. Since this is Yougov, Hillary's probably doing a few points better than this and Sanders doing a few point worse but 60:40 sounds likely.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2016, 10:36:51 AM »

Heres an actual link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-south-carolina-still-solidly-for-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2016, 10:37:51 AM »

Jesus Christ, margin of error of 9 points. Might as well not publish that poll.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 10:43:05 AM »

whites:
Sanders 63%
Clinton 36%

blacks:
Clinton 73%
Sanders 26%

men:
Sanders 54%
Clinton 45%

women:
Clinton 70%
Sanders 29%

age 18-29:
Sanders 63%
Clinton 37%

age 65+:
Clinton 69%
Sanders 29%
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2016, 10:45:05 AM »

Its gets tough for Sanders now.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2016, 10:47:47 AM »

If anyone's curious, last month's poll.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/cbs-yougov-23570
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2016, 10:48:31 AM »

I'd accept this result. Sanders getting 40% would be better than what I expect right now. It is true that Yougov usually gives better results than Sanders than other pollsters. But since Sanders has outperformed the polling average so far, they've wound up as one of the most accurate pollsters for the Dems.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2016, 10:52:03 AM »

This is a good poll for Sanders.  If Clinton's losing the white vote by this much outside of New England, she's not going to win Nevada, and she's likely to lose the nomination.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2016, 10:53:59 AM »

lol @ Trump's lead being bigger than Hillary's.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2016, 10:55:00 AM »
« Edited: February 14, 2016, 10:57:28 AM by Ljube »

This is a good poll for Sanders.  If Clinton's losing the white vote by this much outside of New England, she's not going to win Nevada, and she's likely to lose the nomination.

That would be a beautiful thing.

EDIT: I have two bets with a friend of mine. Back in June, he said Bush would win and I said TRUMP would win, but since Bush was a favorite, I made him take Cruz, Carson and Fiorina too.

Second bet is about Sanders vs. Clinton. If Clinton wins, I pay a dinner. If Sanders wins, he pays four dinners for all our friends. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2016, 11:00:28 AM »

So essentially no change from the last poll, which means Sanders got no boost out of New Hampshire. Clinton doesn't need the white vote to win the nomination, because the bulk of the delegates she needs are in states with mostly non-white electorates. If losing by nearly 20 points is good for Sanders, he's got a really low bar.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2016, 11:00:47 AM »

Sanders is an obnoxious educated idiot. There's nothing "wonderful" about him winning, except that it will be lead to Trump becoming President.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2016, 11:01:49 AM »

So essentially no change from the last poll, which means Sanders got no boost out of New Hampshire. Clinton doesn't need the white vote to win the nomination, because the bulk of the delegates she needs are in states with mostly non-white electorates. If losing by nearly 20 points is good for Sanders, he's got a really low bar.
When the margin of error is 9 points, I wouldn't say that this will be a 20 point race.
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2016, 11:03:08 AM »

So essentially no change from the last poll, which means Sanders got no boost out of New Hampshire. Clinton doesn't need the white vote to win the nomination, because the bulk of the delegates she needs are in states with mostly non-white electorates. If losing by nearly 20 points is good for Sanders, he's got a really low bar.
When the margin of error is 9 points, I wouldn't say that this will be a 20 point race.

So far we haven't seen a poll shows it as a toss-up, but okay.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2016, 11:04:15 AM »

I was hoping for a Nevada poll today, guess we are going into the caucus completely blind.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2016, 11:05:04 AM »

I was hoping for a Nevada poll today, guess we are going into the caucus completely blind.

Overtime is coming out with a Nevada poll on the 19th :-)
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »
« Edited: February 14, 2016, 11:12:41 AM by Averroës »

Observations:

  • A plurality of Republican primary voters (41%-39%) say that Rubio is "not ready" to be president. The only other candidate for whom this is true is Ben Carson (55%-22%), although Kasich and Bush's numbers are nearly as bad as Rubio's.
  • A larger share (89%) of Trump's supporters are "decided" than for any other candidate.
  • 77% of Republican primary voters say that their first preference is "strong" or "very strong," The Democratic number is staggering: 93% of Democratic primary voters say that their first preference "strong" or "very strong." The remaining 7% have a "somewhat strong" preference for their first choice, and 0% say that they "will probably keep looking."
  • 84% of Democratic primary voters say that they know Sanders "very well" or "fairly well" - i.e. there's not a lot of room for his numbers to grow, which is probably true if he's really at 40% support.
  • One of the more surprising numbers: Most Democratic primary voters (60%) say that Clinton is honest and trustworthy; however, 50% say that they want "more progressive policies" than those of President Obama. This heavily suggests that most Sanders voters are expressing a positive preference, driven by Sanders' policy views, rather than a negative preference wrt Clinton's integrity. But there's also a huge racial divide in responses on Clinton's trustworthiness (41%-41% among whites, 71%-14% among blacks) and more progressive policies vs. continuing Obama's policies (72%-23% among whites, 36%-59% among blacks, with basically negligible support for "less progressive policies").
  • Weird MoE on the Democratic side, but this converges with the racial crosstabs from the last CBS/YouGov poll, which also had Sanders winning 3/5ths of white voters and Clinton winner 3/4 of black voters.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2016, 11:10:39 AM »

Seems pretty junky. Probably better than ARG, though. I think it's actually something like
Clinton 62
Sanders 34
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2016, 11:18:11 AM »

This is 23 days before the SC Primary.
Hillary did not hold such a big lead 13 days prior to the Iowa polls. Therefore Sanders needs s miracle to win.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2016, 11:18:55 AM »

Note: The margin of error on the Democratic side is YUUGE. It could be Clinton 68-Sanders 31. It could be Clinton 50-Sanders 49. So let's stop making assumptions from this poll, shall we?
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2016, 11:20:02 AM »

Great news for TRUMP. He almost can't be stopped anymore.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2016, 11:21:29 AM »

Unskewed Republican numbers.
Trump 38
Cruz 16
Rubio 15
Kasich 12
Bush 8
Carson 4
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2016, 11:23:07 AM »

Note: The margin of error on the Democratic side is YUUGE. It could be Clinton 68-Sanders 31. It could be Clinton 50-Sanders 49. So let's stop making assumptions from this poll, shall we?
On Twitter, media critic Eric Boehlert wonders why CBS/Yougov bothered to conduct a poll with a 9% margin of error. https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/698894183558488064
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