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« on: December 22, 2015, 06:25:04 PM »
« edited: December 22, 2015, 06:29:34 PM by Likely Voter »
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 06:28:01 PM »
Sigh, another kiddie table.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 06:28:22 PM »
« Edited: December 22, 2015, 06:52:26 PM by Likely Voter »
Current rankings
(bold = in the main debate, * = undercard debate)

US      
1   Trump   34.60
2   Cruz   18.60
3   Rubio   12.00
4   Carson   10.20
5   Bush   4.40
6   Christie   3.60

7   Fiorina*   2.60
8   Paul*   2.20
9   Kasich*   2.00
10   Huckabee*   1.60
11   Santorum*   0.50
12   Pataki*   0.25
   
IA      
1   Cruz   28.0
2   Trump   23.4
3   Rubio   13.0
4   Carson   11.4
5   Bush   5.6

6   Paul   3.6
7   Fiorina   2.4
8   Christie   2.0
9   Huckabee   1.8
10   Kasich   1.6
11   Santorum   0.6
12   Pataki   0.3
      
NH      
1   Trump   26.80
2   Rubio   12.20
3   Cruz   9.60
4   Bush   8.60
5   Christie   8.40

6   Kasich   7.60
7   Carson   7.00
8   Fiorina   4.20
9   Paul   2.60
10   Huckabee   0.80
11   Santorum   0.20
12   Pataki   0.00
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 06:28:45 PM »
Seems pretty reasonable.

Praying that #gilmore2k16 will be invited.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 06:30:19 PM »
Finally Fiorina is leaving, along with Paul and probably Kasich. It's about time we got down to 6.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 06:34:49 PM »
Will being pushed to the kiddie table push any of Fiorina, Kasich, or Paul to drop out of the race?  Paul was talking about "making an announcement about his candidacy" back when he looked likely to be demoted to the kiddie table at the last debate.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 06:37:29 PM »
This is a fair criteria.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 06:45:07 PM »
New Hampshire might let Kasich in (if he's in fifth rather than Jeb!), but this is almost definitely it for Fiorina and Rand.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 06:46:18 PM »
FF debate criteria.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2015, 06:47:07 PM »
So...we have no idea what the undercard requirements are?
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 06:49:17 PM »
Quote from: The Mikado on December 22, 2015, 06:47:07 PM
So...we have no idea what the undercard requirements are?

"at least one percent in ONE of the five most recent national polls."
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 07:01:51 PM »
Quote from: ͡◔ ᴥ ͡◔ on December 22, 2015, 06:28:45 PM
Praying that #gilmore2k16 will be invited.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 07:06:59 PM »
If, by some kind of Christmas miracle, Gilmore got 1% in a poll somewhere, then the undercard could end up with more candidates (assuming Pataki and Santorum also still has some poll with 1% somewhere)
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2015, 07:13:24 PM »
Current polls being used:
Nationally - Quinnipiac, FOX, ABC/WashPost, Monmouth, NBC/WSJ
Iowa - Quinnipiac, FOX, Loras (I think), DMR/Bloomberg, Monmouth
New Hampshire - Boston Herald, WBUR, CNN/WMUR, Suffolk/Boston Globe, FOX

I'm assuming that CBS/Yougov and PPP are not counted because they are not live phone polls.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2015, 07:18:39 PM »
Polls I used...

US
Quinnipiac
FOX News
ABC News/Wash Post
Monmouth
NBC/WSJ

NH
Boston Herald
WBUR/MassINC
CNN/WMUR
Boston Globe/Suffolk
FOX News

IA
DMR/Bloomberg
Quinnipiac
FOX News
Loras College
Monmouth

 
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2015, 07:32:27 PM »
Isn't that the same list?
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2015, 07:34:25 PM »
i guess so, i just cut/paste from spreadsheet. Maybe I should make it sharable on the google machine or something.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2015, 07:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Likely Voter on December 22, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
If, by some kind of Christmas miracle, Gilmore got 1% in a poll somewhere, then the undercard could end up with more candidates (assuming Pataki and Santorum also still has some poll with 1% somewhere)

IIRC, Gilmore got 3% in a recent Ipsos/Reuters poll.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2015, 07:50:16 PM »
Quote from: Castro on December 22, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: The Mikado on December 22, 2015, 06:47:07 PM
So...we have no idea what the undercard requirements are?

"at least one percent in ONE of the five most recent national polls."

OK, so 1% in an IA or NH poll wouldn't get them in.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2015, 07:51:35 PM »
Ughhh get rid of the kiddie debates...its just allowing irrelevant candidates free air time.
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2015, 07:53:46 PM »
My mother's response to this, after watching the a majority of the debates, was "Who's John Kasich"

It's time to clean this stage up to the serious plus Bush for comedy.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM »
Quote from: smilo on December 22, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
My mother's response to this, after watching the a majority of the debates, was "Who's John Kasich"

It's time to clean this stage up to the serious plus Bush for comedy.

Comedy? I'd love to see Jeb Bush and Rand Paul debate each other.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2015, 08:43:16 PM »
It is ludicrous to have a kiddie table debate 2 weeks before Iowa.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2015, 09:15:06 PM »
Fiorina and Paul relegated to the kiddie table? Sounds good to me.

Maybe that'll drive them to drop out
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2015, 09:15:42 PM »
Unless Paul somehow manages to surge in Iowa before the debate, I think he's toast.

Also very excited for a non-Kasich, non-Fiorina, non-Paul debate.
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