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« on: December 15, 2015, 08:23:31 PM »

Which Republican presidential nominee can you see losing R-leaning Missouri in the general election to Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders?
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 08:24:05 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 08:25:56 PM »

Maybe Cruz?
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 08:32:36 PM »
« Edited: December 15, 2015, 08:36:00 PM by YPestis25 »

Maybe Trump. I think the more extreme ones would win by somewhere between 5 and 10. The rest would win here by 10 or so points unless something drastic happens. For a Democrat to win here and for it not to be an aberration, they need to pull back the Democrats in the bootheel and towns like St. Genevieve and forge them with a coalition of urban and college voters in St. Louis, Columbia, and Kansas City.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 08:34:55 PM »

Trump
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 11:28:17 PM »

Kasich or Paul.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 11:30:12 PM »

Carly Fiorina would almost certainly lose Missouri, along with a lot of other previously Republican states.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 11:40:40 PM »

Really just Trump and Carson, tbh
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 11:46:28 PM »

Lol can any of you explain to me how any Republican candidate would lose R-leaning safe-R Missouri.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 02:36:15 AM »

Lol can any of you explain to me how any Republican candidate would lose R-leaning safe-R Missouri.

Sure.

Carly Fiorina wins the Republican nomination (somehow) in a brutally negative campaign. Hillary Clinton makes Fiorina's record at HP the forefront of her campaign. This causes Fiorina to alienate white working class, which make up a lot of votes in Missouri. Low turnout causes Fiorina to lose in a near 1980 sweep.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2015, 02:45:55 AM »

Only Jeb or Carly. Maybe Cruz on a bad day.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015, 03:00:04 AM »

Only Fiorina really.

Trump would honestly clean house among Missouri whites.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 03:02:33 AM »

I think it would be closer than 2012 with Trump or Cruz. Not going to bother speculating on the joke candidates.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 06:58:50 AM »

None, the GOP will win state
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2015, 07:52:32 AM »

MO is an R+5 state. That means it in play if Hillary (presumably) is beating the Pub by 10 points nationally in the two-party race. With minor parties that means a national result of 54-44. Obama almost took MO in 2008 with a 7 point margin nationally (52-45), but in 2012 lost it by 9 when leading nationally by 4 (51-47). I see it happening with a significant third party taking votes from the Pub as Perot did to help Bill Clinton take it both times, and back then MO tended more Dem than then it does now.
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2015, 08:01:19 AM »

Nobody would lose anything but DC, Vermont, and maybe Hawaii to Sanders, but Trump might lose Missouri to Clinton.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2015, 08:03:09 AM »

Nobody would lose anything but DC, Vermont, and maybe Hawaii to Sanders, but Trump might lose Missouri to Clinton.

I seriously doubt that, even Trump can win there
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2015, 08:59:46 AM »

Chris Christie would lose south Missouri and St.Louis area big and the state to Clinton. Not so sure about Jeb!. But he is also a terrible fit for that state.
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2015, 10:42:24 AM »

No actual candidate with an R next to their name is losing MO in less than 11 months.

Common sense.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2015, 12:04:55 PM »

Just like "common sense" suggested that we should be seeing a tense battle for the GOP nomination between Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, with Rand Paul proving a resilient underdog?
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2015, 12:19:27 PM »

MO is a conservative state and down ballot races with go with the nominee.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2015, 04:52:19 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2015, 04:59:33 PM by EliteLX »

Just like "common sense" suggested that we should be seeing a tense battle for the GOP nomination between Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, with Rand Paul proving a resilient underdog?

Early primary predictions of a group full of nearly 20 people has absolutely zero correlation with simple statistics, state trend strength, and state demographics. MO isn't voting Democrat in 11 months with any of the candidates left available in the GOP primary. MO loss would probably correlate with an 8% popular vote loss, something no GOP candidate will produce against Hillary in less than a year.
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2015, 04:55:09 PM »

Bush, Paul, and Kasich would all lose Missouri.
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2015, 04:56:44 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2015, 05:02:43 PM by EliteLX »

Bush, Paul, and Kasich would all lose Missouri.

Romney won MO by 10%. Bush, Kasich, and Paul aren't losing the state. You're absolutely delusional and pull your ideas out of thin air, sir.
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2015, 05:04:40 PM »

Bush, Paul, and Kasich would all lose Missouri.

Romney won MO by 10%. Bush, Kasich, and Paul aren't losing the state. You're absolutely delusional and pull your ideas out of thin air, sir.

And Obama came within 4,000 votes of winning it in 2008.  I think Clinton could win the state in a landslide election, like what would happen if she were up against low energy losers like Bush, Kasich, and Paul.
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