ABC/WaPo national poll: Clinton 50% Trump 44%

[EliteLX]

Not too bad for Trump!

Down 6-10% nationwide before he even steps into a general campaign (especially for Trump..) is most definitely a horrible sign.

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[EliteLX]

Not too bad for Trump!

Down 6-10% nationwide before he even steps into a general campaign (especially for Trump..) is most definitely a horrible sign.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you stupidly and baselessly assume that his numbers would only go down, sure!

Trump's not going to benefit from being in a direct 1V1 with Hillary nationwide, Lief. She will shred him up and make him look like such a senseless fool with his comments he'll be permastuck with his go-to face. Hillary will establish a hate coalition of the youth, hispanics, blacks, and muslims like never before. He'll have no media on his side either. Tell you this Lief, his numbers aren't going up once he gets to the big boy stage.

[EliteLX]

Not too bad for Trump!

Down 6-10% nationwide before he even steps into a general campaign (especially for Trump..) is most definitely a horrible sign.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you stupidly and baselessly assume that his numbers would only go down, sure!

Trump's not going to benefit from being in a direct 1V1 with Hillary nationwide, Lief. She will shred him up and make him look like such a senseless fool with his comments he'll be permastuck with his go-to face. Hillary will establish a hate coalition of the youth, hispanics, blacks, and muslims like never before. He'll have no media on his side either. Tell you this Lief, his numbers aren't going up once he gets to the big boy stage.

How exactly is this not going to happen with any other GOP candidate?

Because Hillary vs Trump is a big difference than Hillary vs Rubio. Trump can't make it five minutes without looking like an mentally incapable nimwit to everybody but his biggest fans, and Hillary has the charm to make it even worse. He also struggles immensely with discussing actual policy rather than rhetoric and when he's not in a GOP primary echo chamber Hillary will call him out for this big time and put him on the grill, and there will be no primary poll #'s to insult her with anymore, because this is no longer the Republican primary. The mechanics of Trump's strategy for success no longer works in the general election.

That's how.

[EliteLX]

Except Rubio has horribly out of touch positions that the Democrats can mock like they did with Romney AND still attach him to Trump AND he also has a very sketchy history in Florida.

Rubio's "out of touch" positions break back down into the simple left vs right political argument that empowers the elections and this very forum, so, can't comment such a broad subject here.

His character can't be attached to Trump and I'd argue a majority of national voters couldn't connect Donald and Marco. His history in Florida is for him to defend, whether that's sketchy or not is debatable.