The Wisconsin Survey: Every Democrat leads easily

[MT Treasurer]

Clinton/Trump: 50/39
Clinton/Bush: 49/39
Clinton/Carson: 49/45
Sanders/Trump: 55/37
Sanders/Bush: 52/38
Sanders/Carson: 48/42
Biden/Trump: 56/37
Biden/Bush: 54/36
Biden/Carson: 50/42

http://www.wpr.org/sites/default/files/2015%20Fall%20WI%20Survey%20Release.pdf

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yet again Bernie is in better shape than Hillary in the general election

[Holmes]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

[Holmes]

Has there been a House committee against him that's been headline news many, many times in the past months?

[Brewer]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

LOL, please don't try and pretend like that is a legitimate comparison.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Scott Walker's legacy my friends.

[Mehmentum]

The amount of scrutiny Sanders is receiving now is nothing compared to what happens to the nominee during a general election campaign. 

Clinton has been dragged through more mud over the past 20 years than any other candidate, particularly in the past 6 months.  Despite this, she's still competitive in most polls.

Its the same reason why Carson's good polling numbers won't hold up in a general election, and why Biden's good GE polling numbers wouldn't have held up either. 

[Holmes]

Its the same reason why Carson's good polling numbers won't hold up in a general election, and why Biden's good GE polling numbers wouldn't have held up either. 

Exactly this. Biden's numbers were the best of any Democrat because he was clean, he wasn't campaigning and no one was saying anything about him. Sort of like when Clinton left the State Department and was just a regular citizen.

[YaBoyNY]

but muh swing state

[Landslide Lyndon]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

You're joking of course.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

You're joking of course.

No. Possibly more than hit pieces against Hillary that had nothing to do with Benghazi or emails.

[Brewer]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

You're joking of course.

No. Possibly more than hit pieces against Hillary that had nothing to do with Benghazi or emails.

Nobody gives two sh**ts about these "hit pieces". People care about the constant news stories of Benghazi, Hillary's emails, etc. If Fox News did nothing but bash Bernie all day, every day from now until the election, he still wouldn't have received nearly as much scrutiny from the media as Hillary has over the course of her career. Yet she still remains in solid shape for the general election, after decades of being pummeled by, a majority of the time, baseless attacks. You're out of your mind if you honestly believe Sanders's image has even been significantly tainted by the right-wing press as of yet.

[Eraserhead]

Sanders in command!

Guys, the whole House Committee nonsense is going to end up boosting Hillary big time (if it isn't helping her already), so I wouldn't cite it as a negative.

[King]

Scott Walker really did a bang up job turning this state safe D.

[Ebsy]

I guess the Republican sweep of the upper midwest will have to wait for another cycle.

[Xing]

#SandersNotElectable

[pbrower2a]

I guess the Republican sweep of the upper Midwest will have to wait for another cycle.

So will a Democratic sweep of the Midwest, as Democrats are not going to win either of the Dakotas, four of five electoral votes of Nebraska, or Kansas this time.

Even Indiana is iffy this early.

[RINO Tom]

Yeah but it's 13 months out, and Clinton has been dragged through the mud many times by Republicans, whereas Sanders really hasn't so far.

There have been quite a number of hit pieces on him.

If you're speaking to a Republican and Independent audience, it's easy to dismiss Bernie Sanders as unrealistic and senile while actually having to attack Hillary Clinton.

[henster]

Hillary's wounds are self-inflicted the email server being a huge one. Sanders may have his faults but I have no reason to doubt his ethics and if there were something oppo research would've dug it up already.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

WI is clearly suppose to be a tossup. And Dems lead in OH. So, all Dems need is Pa and clinch the election.

[pbrower2a]

WI is clearly suppose to be a tossup. And Dems lead in OH. So, all Dems need is Pa and clinch the election.

In Wisconsin the Republican Party is basically "damaged goods" because of the conduct of the Governor. When Wisconsin polls were out of line with the rest of America I could see such as an anomaly with Wisconsin going D+15 as if it were Massachusetts in an election that Hillary Clinton could lose. Anomalies happen.

The Zogby poll in Ohio suggests that Republicans have a different problem in Ohio. Ohio is close to the national average in political affiliations and is more a trend-follower than a trend-setter in politics. Republicans have made their agenda national, and if it implodes in Ohio it is imploding elsewhere.

Recent polls involving Hillary Clinton mostly show her against Republicans as she seemed to have the server 'scandal' and the death of a consular official as political baggage. That is what we see in Pennsylvania and Virginia -- maybe Colorado and Iowa as well. The server 'scandal' proves to be nothing, and Hillary Clinton has convinced about everyone that the horrible incident was a fluid situation that nobody could have micromanaged from Washington, DC.

If you have any familiarity with the Star Trek universe, this is the Kobiyashi Maru scenario -- a no-win situation which shows how a prospective high officer will deal with defeat and mortality even if not one's own. Presidents, Secretaries of Defense, senior military officers,  and Secretaries of State can all find themselves in such a situation; then comes the test of character. Can one make a mistake in such a situation? There may be no right answer -- but there are plenty of wrong ones, and some wrong answers (like cracking up, going numb, or developing a vengeful anger) demonstrate unsuitability to some situations of sure failure.   

PPP polls North Carolina this weekend, and the results will be the first that will show the consequences of the failed inquisition. That Joe Biden has halted his prospective campaign before it started indicates that he had an idea of what would happen.

North Carolina is about R+5. Should Hillary Clinton be in even a virtual tie with Republicans in
her binary match-ups, then she has solved her problems.

Surely you have seen my  match-up maps. Like any map they are obsolete even before I post them. Political reality changes frequently based on events.

[pbrower2a]

This is my latest map (10/24), and it shows the most recent polls of New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wisconsin. It also shows obsolete polls, including one that shows  Jeb Bush tied with Hillary Clinton in Arizona and Donald Trump tied with Hillary Clinton in Kentucky; I don't take those seriously any more. Those polls could be six months old, for all I know.

Polls in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and Virginia are not so blatantly obsolete -- but wouldn't we all like to see how those polls go after prospective voters recognize that the former Secretary of State has been vindicated? Have patience. Count on fresh polls of those legitimate swing states because they have been polled frequently.

Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush

Hillary Clinton vs. Ben Carson

Hillary Clinton vs. Carly Fiorina

Hillary Clinton vs. Mike Huckabee

Hillary Clinton vs. Marco Rubio

Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump

30% -- lead with 40-49% but a margin of 3% or less
40% -- lead with 40-49% but a margin of 4% or more
60% -- lead with 50-54%
70% -- lead with 55-59%
90% -- lead with 60% or more

[Mr. Illini]

I guess the Republican sweep of the upper midwest will have to wait for another cycle.

It's been imminent for about five cycles now. Next time is the charm!

[Maxwell]

Scott Walker really did a bang up job turning this state safe D.

If we view it from this perspective, Scott Walker ran an amazing campaign!