'Religion of Peace' strikes again.

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This sort of thing is appalling, but it's important to remember that not all Muslims are like this. To assume that they are is almost as bad as what the nutters in the article did.
It's also very, very important to realise that not all Muslims are the same.
Let's take the U.K; Pakistanis are very, very different to Bangladeshis. Pakistanis from Mirpur (3 out of 4 British Pakistanis are from that one obscure district in Kashmir; the city was flooded by the Pakistani Government to build a dam. You couldn't "send them back" even if you wanted to) are different to Pakistanis not from Mirpur.
Even after this there's a big differance between Mirpuri Kashmiris in London, Birmingham, Leicester and (especially) the Pennine Belt. And in the Pennine Belt there's a big difference between the young and the old and within the young between a small minority of nutters and an overwhelming majority of people who just want to integrate, to be normal.

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And you're a racist

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There is homphobia in the black community

True. Bigotry exists in all communities. What opebo has been coming out with is racist though.

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True. But a lot of music produced by people with white skins is and has been pretty bigoted as well. Some of the stuff from the '70's and '80's was disgustingly racist.

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With the exception of the police (and that's for understandable reasons. Not that I approve of that attitude, but it's important to remember that until very recently the police's attitude towards blacks in Britain was disgraceful. People have long memories, unfortunately in that case) that's the work of a mindless minority. There are whites who are just as bad.
What's needed as far as the police thing goes is to build up trust. And, due to the abuses of certain parts of the police which carried on up until very recently, that's going to take a long time.

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True

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All this is true as well. But should the cultural problems of Jamaica be used as a pretext to claim that everyone who happens to have the same skin colour has the same problem?

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Which is nowhere near as bad or as common as certain sections of the media like to think.

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1. Most African immigrants don't go in for that sort of stuff. Mostly they're Evangelical Christians.

2. Most communities have a small group of weirdo's who practice seriously f***ed up customs. Like hare-coursing for example (although that's banned now).

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True. But I'm not argueing that.

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Note to Americans: the various black communities over here are (despite all the problems) much, much more integrated than in the U.S.
There aren't any black ghetto's for one thing.

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Why don't you just f*** off back to you're bedsit?

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And that proves? What exactly? That some Muslims are nutters? Can't argue with that. That Islam should be banned? Course it doesn't. And by saying that it should you're being almost as bad as those nutters.

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Semi-Retired Al, would you have a problem with the state ment 'all Naziis are dangerous'?

No. But to compare all Muslims to Nazis is absurd.

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Semi-Retired Al, would you have a problem with the state ment 'all Naziis are dangerous'?

No. But to compare all Muslims to Nazis is absurd.

Not really.  Religions are ideologies.  There is really no difference between wanting to stamp out a dangerous ideology like Naziism and a dangerous ideology like Islam or christianity.

Troll

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I live just outside Telford right now actually

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I should point out that I've no problem with you all slagging off certain muslim groups etc... if afleitch wants to sound off about the London Bangladeshis or the Birmingham Pakistanis or the older Bradford/Keighley Pakistanis... fine. That would probably be entirely justified. If the Americans here want to sound off about Wahabbis. Fine. Same applies.
Just *don't* make sweeping generalisations about *all* muslims.
Don't do reverse bigotry ("Islam should be banned") either.